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What just happened? (Delaware and Dropbox)

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Background:

https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2024/12 ... on%20grant.

THE BEGINNING


A Delaware Court has rejected Tesla’s attempt to reinstate Elon Musk’s court-rescinded options despite Tesla’s shareholders “ratification” of the options.

Tesla and Musk could appeal the latest court decision or the earlier decision which initially struck down the Musk option grant.

Separately, the Court approved record-setting attorney fees in the amount of $345 million, down from the initial fee request of $5.6 billion.

Background
The saga of Elon Musk’s option mega-grant continues. Shareholders first approved the multi-billion-dollar option grant in 2018. A Delaware court judge rescinded the grant on January 30, 2024, followed by a shareholder vote ratifying the rescinded option grant on June 13, 2024. On June 30, 2024, Tesla filed a motion with the Delaware court seeking reinstatement of the option grant on the basis of this shareholder ratification. On December 2, 2024, the Delaware court rejected Tesla’s motion and let stand its decision to rescind the grant.

Against this backdrop, Tesla’s market capitalization has increased from approximately $50 billion to an extraordinary $1 trillion+ over the same time period. This increase in market capitalization has driven the in-the-money value of these options to approximately $100 billion!
THE VERDICT

Delaware Court Rejects Tesla’s Attempt to Reinstate Musk’s Grants
On December 2, 2024, the Delaware court minced no words in its wholesale rejection of Tesla’s motion to reverse the court’s decision rescinding Musk’s option grants. At the outset of its decision, the court acknowledges that “the large and talented group of defense firms got creative with the ratification argument.” The pleasantries ended there with the court finding that defense counsels’ “unprecedented theories” underlying the ratification argument “go against multiple strains of settled law.” In particular, the court noted that counsels’ theories were defective in the following ways:

• The defendants have no procedural ground for flipping the outcome of an adverse post-trial decision based on evidence they created after trial and noting that “[w]ere the court to condone the practice of allowing defeated parties to create new facts for the purpose of revising judgments, lawsuits would become interminable”.

• Common-law ratification is an affirmative defense that must be timely raised, which means that, at a minimum, it cannot be raised for the first time after the decision.

• What the defendants call “common law ratification” has no basis in the common law, a stockholder vote standing alone cannot ratify a conflicted-controller transaction.

• Even if a stockholder vote could have a ratifying effect, it could not do so here due to multiple, material misstatements in the proxy statement seeking shareholder ratification.

The court noted that each of these defects standing alone defeats Tesla’s motion to reverse the court’s prior holding.

Tesla has already indicated that it will appeal the court’s decision to the Delaware Supreme Court. When the appeal will be heard, and a decision rendered is not known at this time.
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The aftermath

https://www.newsweek.com/delaware-exodu ... sk-2024596
Delaware Faces Exodus of Tech Companies

Why It Matters
Delaware has long been considered a business-friendly state due to its corporate tax advantages, and is home to multiple large companies. However, backlash against the First State has intensified after Delaware Judge Kathaleen McCormick ruled that Tesla CEO Elon Musk's record-breaking $56 billion compensation package was excessive.

Musk, who has become increasingly influential in both the political and corporate world, urged companies to pull out of the Democratic-led state. In February 2024, he announced that SpaceX was relocating its incorporation from Delaware to Texas, following Tesla's corporate move from California to Texas in 2021.

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What Happens Next
It remains unclear when or if Meta and Dropbox will officially move out of Delaware.

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If she was following the law, then why do these people give a fuck? Was she not following the law? Was she truly legislating from the bench? If the shareholders voted (multiple times) to give him that package, was it really illegal for the shareholders to do so? Will there truly be an exodus from Delaware?
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Maybe you should ask yourself why all of these major corporations, who don’t actually operate in Delaware, chose to incorporate there in the first place.

FWIW, Ellen and his toys have not actually “left” California despite despite his announcement saying that he would, and moving his headquarters to Austin. They’re welcome to him. I wish he would take his highly polluting shit from Vandenberg and move it all to Space City or whatever they call it on the Gulf of MEXICO.

And “why do all these people give a fuck?” Consider where you’re getting your information, think about it for minute or two, and get back to us.



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Another BTW…Tesla reincorporated in Texas in June of 2024.
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If the shareholders ratified the arrangement, how is any of Delaware's fucking business?
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mvscal wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:37 pm If the shareholders ratified the arrangement, how is any of Delaware's fucking business?
It’s not “Delaware’s fucking business.” But because they are incorporated in Delaware, they have to comply with Delaware’s laws and regulations, so it is the Delaware court’s business. That’s the reason they incorporated there in the first place. Please tell me your pea sized brain can at least comprehend that much.
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I know HPG gets it. He’s just too wedded to really hilarious snark to admit it.
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Mikey wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 6:18 pm
mvscal wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:37 pm If the shareholders ratified the arrangement, how is any of Delaware's fucking business?
It’s not “Delaware’s fucking business.” But because they are incorporated in Delaware, they have to comply with Delaware’s laws and regulations, so it is the Delaware court’s business. That’s the reason they incorporated there in the first place. Please tell me your pea sized brain can at least comprehend that much.
And which "laws and regulations" have been violated? Please be specific in your response.
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mvscal wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 6:31 pm
Mikey wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 6:18 pm
mvscal wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:37 pm If the shareholders ratified the arrangement, how is any of Delaware's fucking business?
It’s not “Delaware’s fucking business.” But because they are incorporated in Delaware, they have to comply with Delaware’s laws and regulations, so it is the Delaware court’s business. That’s the reason they incorporated there in the first place. Please tell me your pea sized brain can at least comprehend that much.
And which "laws and regulations" have been violated? Please be specific in your response.
Ask the judge, dipshit. That’s what they’re there for. Tell me that your pea sized brain can at least comprehend that much. Maybe you should go through the decision in detail and report out here where she was wrong. Please be specific in your response.
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So, you have no clue. Just Muuh Trump and Musk bad.
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mvscal wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:09 pm So, you have no clue. Just Muuh Trump and Musk bad.
20 yard punt, shanked out of bounds. Nice try.
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Mikey wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 6:18 pm
mvscal wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:37 pm If the shareholders ratified the arrangement, how is any of Delaware's fucking business?
It’s not “Delaware’s fucking business.” But because they are incorporated in Delaware, they have to comply with Delaware’s laws and regulations, so it is the Delaware court’s business. That’s the reason they incorporated there in the first place.
Mikey wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 6:20 pm I know HPG gets it. He’s just too wedded to really hilarious snark to admit it.
I do get it. I own and operate several businesses and have interactions with myriad regulatory agencies. Depts of Ag, Revenue, Enviromental Quality, Health & Safety, SoS, Workforce, Employment, Treasury, MSHA, OSHA, etc.

I am fortunate to have good working relationships with my regulators. We share a common goal and I get a strong feeling of partnership from the agencies. It's nice. I have very little to complain about.

Incorporating in Delaware must have similar benefits. When disputes arise, regulatory agencies are decent and reqsonable to work with. That's an attractive business climate. Makes sense why big corporations would flock there.

This situation with tsla in Delaware seems to represent a sea change. A corporation is a group of individuals working toward a common goal. A regulatory agency is there to ensure fairness among the members and legality under statute. The voting members of the corporation voted for a compensation package. If a regulator wants to deny that compensation, the regulator needs to provide a good reason.

It seems this judge has not provided a good reason and knowing this decision will be cited as case law in the future, other large corporations have reason to be nervous. The Left has been drum beating about reigning in corporate compensation for decades. Nothing ever happens, probably because corporations give political donations to the gang doing the shakedown, but that's another topic. If an activist judge didn't get the memo that hating on CEOs is a racket, not a mission statement, and decided it's her mission to press the rhetoric into action, of course corporations are going to get jumpy.
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So let's see here. BoD votes for a compensation package for the owner of the company. A minority shareholder, and by minority, I mean a clown with literally 8 shares files suit. Libtard judge sustains...just because.

Board votes again. Libtard judge says no again. Why? Well...because, um...anyone? Class? Bueller?
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