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Papa Willie wrote:nothing that would peel the shit off a midget's dick after brown-tipping Obama.
Basically that he had almost no swing and was technically very very limited. He could play fast and he could keep time and that's what counts and rock and roll but when it came to finding a groove and sticking to it he was not even in Bonzo's league.smackaholic wrote:It fukking sucks when someone who actually knows what the fukk he is talking about enlightens you about one of your hero's flaws, doesn't it?BSmack wrote:I got into a similar discussion with Van during chat. He was finally able to persuade me that there was a fundamental flaw Keith Moon's playing compared to John Bonham's. You're right once you realize that it sticks in your craw.smackaholic wrote:It's all subjective rubbish, anyway, once you get into the top 20 or so. Bonham, IMO, is the ultimate blues-based rock drummer. No one has a better feel for this type of playing. And, he showed that he could take on new styles and pwn them later in his career. He is the only one I can think of who can get as deep in a groove as Steve Gadd.
The guy that I feel is rated too high here is Peart. I am a YYYYYUGE Rush and Peart fan, but, as "drummer" pointed out once here, or one of the earlier boards, Neil swings like a rusty gate. WTF ever happened to drummer, BTW? i had never really thought much about the concept of "swing" when rating drummers, but I do now.
So, what was Keith's flaw, besides really, really bad substance abuse issues? I still think he is one of the greats. He jsn't what a great drummer is supposed to be. He's rather unique. But, he could swing and he was the perfect drummer for The Who.
This statement bothers me a bit.BSmack wrote:........ he was not even in Bonzo's league.
mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
I don't think I can take credit for that, and if I did say it, it's from a completely ignorant point of view since I know absolutely nothing technical about drumming. I just know what I like, and Keith always sounded good to me. The closest my uneducated ear could discern regarding what Keith did for The Who was what Mitch Mitchell did for Hendrix. Both sounded like they weren't just keeping the beat, but were almost playing lead parts in some songs, like Hendrix's Fire and The Who's My Generation and Baba O'Riley. As far as commenting on technical prowess and ability, I'll leave that to those who know what they're talking about.smackaholic wrote:I believe it was SC or one of the other board music smartypants that noted that Keith's playing fit the band perfectly, better than anyone else.
Which, around here, includes...nobody.Smackie Chan wrote: As far as commenting on technical prowess and ability, I'll leave that to those who know what they're talking about.
Nice one, cheers Smackie! I'd love to take over, but having trouble understanding the criticism. I think they're saying Moon couldn't comprehend more than one tempo? Who knows, it's mindless Zep-no-babble.Smackie Chan wrote: As far as commenting on technical prowess and ability, I'll leave that to those who know what they're talking about.
Smackie Chan wrote:I don't think I can take credit for that, and if I did say it, it's from a completely ignorant point of view since I know absolutely nothing technical about drumming. I just know what I like, and Keith always sounded good to me. The closest my uneducated ear could discern regarding what Keith did for The Who was what Mitch Mitchell did for Hendrix. Both sounded like they weren't just keeping the beat, but were almost playing lead parts in some songs, like Hendrix's Fire and The Who's My Generation and Baba O'Riley. As far as commenting on technical prowess and ability, I'll leave that to those who know what they're talking about.smackaholic wrote:I believe it was SC or one of the other board music smartypants that noted that Keith's playing fit the band perfectly, better than anyone else.
mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
Rack.Dinsdale wrote:that would be a "no" on J Geils (sup UCant).
Yet they're still out selling some who are already in, those best described as representing the living dead.Papa Willie wrote: That'd be kind of cool. Problem is - almost all the originals are dead now!
mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
None are dead. On the rare occasions when they still perform, four of the original six are onstage. The only two who aren't are drummer Stephen Jo Bladd and, ironically, J. Geils. Bladd is pretty much retired, and Geils basically doesn't like the other band members and sued them for continuing to use his name for the band. Not sure how that played out.Papa Willie wrote:Problem is - almost all the originals are dead now!
Looks like his setlist contains a few JGB songs, but most of the solo songs I've heard from him are way more pop than blues. His solo material is a far cry from what he did on the early JGB albums, but somewhat similar to Love Stinks & Freeze Frame. Have fun.smackaholic wrote:Peter Wolf is playing in Hartford in April. Gotta see it.
I think you're right, in which case so would he.Joe in PB wrote:I think spray was referring to Marshall Tucker.
Really?Smackie Chan wrote:Looks like his setlist contains a few JGB songs, but most of the solo songs I've heard from him are way more pop than blues. His solo material is a far cry from what he did on the early JGB albums, but somewhat similar to Love Stinks & Freeze Frame. Have fun.smackaholic wrote:Peter Wolf is playing in Hartford in April. Gotta see it.
mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
I can just about guarantee no members of JGB will be with him, but most of his recent sets are heavy with their tunes. Might not be bad. He's a great showman.smackaholic wrote:Maybe I'll pass. A magic dickless lineup just wouldn't be the same.
That should punch the band's ticket for induction next year.BSmack wrote:And down goes J Geils. Way to go Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. You killed him.
Well, there's one we can definitely scratch from the list.Smackie Chan wrote:I can just about guarantee no members of JGB will be with him, but most of his recent sets are heavy with their tunes. Might not be bad. He's a great showman.smackaholic wrote:Maybe I'll pass. A magic dickless lineup just wouldn't be the same.
mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
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FtfyDerron wrote:This will take you back to 79 or whenever it came out.
Knew that was coming, color me not the least bit shocked.Dinsdale wrote: Although I can think of one thing J Geils and Robert Palmer have in common... it involves well-fed worms.
I blame the stroke.War Wagon wrote:Very interesting thread with good takes and reads, start to finish. Nobody even came close to pissing me off, which is unusual.
RIP J. Geils, enjoyed their music very much. I'll reserve comment on the R&RHoF except to say I'm glad ELO got in.
For some reason I can't explain, whenever I hear tracks by J. Geils band, I'm reminded of Robert Palmer. Maybe Smackie can explain it, I hope so. I hate there being stuff I feel strongly about that I Can't Explain. Maybe that's why I hadn't chimed in on this excellent topic until now.
So if nobody can explain the subliminal connection, I'll blame it on Keith Moon and The Who instead. But I always liked Robert Palmer.
mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
That set me back quite a bit, no doubt, but didn't affect me in the least regarding what music I like, before and after.smackaholic wrote:I blame the stroke.
mvscal wrote:The only precious metals in a SHTF scenario are lead and brass.
The clip you posted was pretty cool, but he was also listenable when he was a member of Vinegar Joe. Cool tune from them here:BSmack wrote:There was a time when Robert Palmer was listenable.