New Steroid Bombshell?

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:45 pm

Well, maybe it's not a bombshell yet. But if this story does get legs, this will make BALCO look like a walk in the park for MLB.

Three weeks after 9/11, with airline security tightened like a tourniquet, Canadian Border Service agents at Pearson International Airport in Toronto noticed that a gym bag coming off a Cleveland Indians charter flight had no label on it, nothing to identify the owner.

That was an instant red flag, and when agents unzipped the bag they found five ampules of anabolic steroids, pills of the anabolic drug clenbuterol, along with hypodermic needles. Agents notified Toronto police and Cleveland personnel, and they allowed the bag to proceed to the Westin Harbour Castle Hotel, where the club was staying, to see who claimed it.

According to a Canadian Border Service Agency seizure report, the man who picked up the bag was Angel (Nao) Presinal, then 48, a fitness trainer to the Dominican Republic's national basketball and boxing teams and the World Baseball Classic team, who has worked with some of the biggest names ever to come to the major leagues from the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico: Pedro Martinez, David Ortiz, Vladimir Guerrero, Bartolo Colon, Miguel Tejada, Adrian Beltre, Moises Alou, Jose Guillen, Ervin Santana, Ruben Sierra, Francisco Cordero, Jose Mesa and Juan Guzman, among others.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/ ... 9944c.html

The rest of the story is even more damning.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:50 pm

I just think it is interesting it is just now coming out.

Nothing surprises me in baseball anymore. The good news is many of the cheaters' hearts will explode someday.

BSmack · Post by **BSmack** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:08 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:I just think it is interesting it is just now coming out.

You mean it is possible that baseball tried to cover this up?

I'm right with ya. If there was a merciful and just God, Bud Selig would be facing a RICO indictment.

Nothing surprises me in baseball anymore. The good news is many of the cheaters' hearts will explode someday.

It is getting to the point where we might just as well assume everybody in baseball was juicing. Remember back when we just assumed that the reason there were so many Dominicans in MLB was because they worked their asses off and loved the game like no other? Well, now you have to wonder if those kids aren't also getting some Vitamin S and/or HGH as they come up through the ranks.

BTW: If I were a beat writer, I'd be hunting down Roger Clemens' steroid connection. Not saying that he's guilty. Just saying that anybody doing freakishly unnatural things like posting a 2.09 ERA at the age of 44 "might" be getting some help.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 9:15 pm

There's not one player in baseball I'd put it past not to be doing roids. No one from the last 20 years should be allowed in the HOF. 500 bad apples spoint the bunch.

Terry in Crapchester · Tue Aug 08, 2006 10:44 am

IndyFrisco wrote:There's not one player in baseball I'd put it past not to be doing roids. No one from the last 20 years should be allowed in the HOF. 500 bad apples spoint the bunch.

I think it'd be fairly safe to exclude Don Mattingly from that group, just for one (if you're going back 20 years, that is). Dude was the best in the game until his back gave out at the ripe old age of 34. I tend to think that he might have lasted a little longer than that if he was getting some help, although I suppose I could be wrong.

Bizzarofelice · Post by **Bizzarofelice** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:23 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:There's not one player in baseball I'd put it past not to be doing roids.

David Eckstein?

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:39 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:There's not one player in baseball I'd put it past not to be doing roids.
David Eckstein?

He has 1 homer and will probably end up that way. Last year, he played in a bigger home park and jacked 8 homers. Coincidence? I think not.

Dude was totally roiding.

Cicero · Post by **Cicero** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:06 pm

BSmack wrote: BTW: If I were a beat writer, I'd be hunting down Roger Clemens' steroid connection. Not saying that he's guilty. Just saying that anybody doing freakishly unnatural things like posting a 2.09 ERA at the age of 44 "might" be getting some help.

I have to agree w/ you B. What a coincidence that he sat out 50 game before he decided it was time to come back this year.

Shoalzie · Post by **Shoalzie** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:57 pm

Bizzarofelice wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:There's not one player in baseball I'd put it past not to be doing roids.
David Eckstein?

How about Jason Tyner with the Twins...hasn't hit a home run in around 900 ABs in the bigs. Dude has to be the wimpiest looking player in baseball but he can run the like the wind.

socal · Post by **socal** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:24 pm

The Dodgers are roiding.

Sin,

Now

No, they're not.

Sin,

1-13 after the AS break

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:12 pm

Shoalzie wrote:
Bizzarofelice wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:There's not one player in baseball I'd put it past not to be doing roids.
David Eckstein?
How about Jason Tyner with the Twins...hasn't hit a home run in around 900 ABs in the bigs. Dude has to be the wimpiest looking player in baseball but he can run the like the wind.

I went to all the baseball games at Texas A&M when I was in school there. Tyner played for us. If you've never been to a game at Olsen Field (or heard about the experience), Aggie fans, mostly students, in the upper deck heckle the other teams relentlessly. They call themselves the Aggie Raggies (leave the OTR jokes at home).

Anyhow, Tyner hit one out when they had a MAJOR tailwind. Next opponent that came to town, the Aggie Raggies started with the POW-ER-HIT-TER clap...clap...clapclapclap chant. The right fielder actually took a couple steps back when they were yelling that. Tyner went ahead and blooped his single right in front of the right fielder.

In any case, yeah, I wouldn't put it past Tyner for roiding. Maybe not as much as Eck, but he's probably roiding.