Derek freaking Jeter

[The Assassin]

Is there a better clutch hitter in baseball today???

Hate the Yanks but respect the fuck outta Jeter.


And once again we see why the Royals are indeed the Royals.

[Prototype]

1st and 2nd w/ one out.

Not over yet.

:?

[The Assassin]

1st and 2nd w/ one out.

Not over yet.

:?

Now it is. :(

[Prototype]

Yep, nevermind.

Props to Elmer Dessens though, fantastic two innings pitched. Would have loved to have seen him get a chance at a third though.

Time for Andrew Sisco to visit the minors for a couple of weeks.

[The Assassin]

Yep, nevermind.

Props to Elmer Dessens though, fantastic two innings pitched. Would have loved to have seen him get a chance at a third though.

Time for Andrew Sisco to visit the minors for a couple of weeks.

Is Jose lima still with you guys?

[Prototype]

Lima was in the Mets camp but I don't think he made the squad.


Local radio is pissed this am regarding yesterdays game. They are putting the loss squarely on Buddy Bells shoulders for pulling Dessens and throwing Sisco to the wolves. Can't really disagree.

[Bizzarofelice]

Is there a better clutch hitter in baseball today???

I'm sure there is.

[Cicero]

^^^


I'm assuming you are referring to Pujols. If so, I would have to agree.


Jeter though is about the only one on the Yankees I like. He's a bonafide leader and plays the game w/ class.

[Bizzarofelice]

I'd just look at the RISP stat and see.

Jeter gets more media coverage and probably has a bunch of people on base for him.

[UCant#2]

Bace--

Are you intimating there's more people on base for Jeter's AB as opposed to Pujol's?

I think it's a wash at best for Jeter.. Jeter has batted 2nd (or sometimes leadoff... an even greater disadvantage) most of his career, Pujols, 3rd.

First AB, advantage Pujols... 1 and 2 get a chance to be on base, as opposed to Jeter's 1.

Subsequent ABs... the 9 hole, 1, 2, for Albert and the 8, 9, and 1 for Jeter... You factor in the amount of times/game there's a pinch hitter at 9. Yeah... I think Albert has just a good a chance to have runners on base for his AB.

[Prototype]

David Ortiz/Albert Pujols
Derek Jeter
Bronson Arroyo

[Bizzarofelice]

First of all, I didn't have Pujols in mind when I made my first comment. I'd look at a RISP stat. Its a percentage and not a notion like "most clutch."

I was aware of the place in the order Jeter bats in, but keep in mind the batters hitting in front of each player:
Cano-Bernie Williams-Damon-Jeter
Pitcher-Eckstein-Encarnacion-Pujols

[UCant#2]

Okay. Fair enough.


Is is safe to say "Advantage Cards" at the #9 slot?

[Bizzarofelice]

well played. Does Bernie have anything to offer other than a reminder of the '01 team?

[UCant#2]

Other than his guitar playing abilities and fodder for the Rainbow Coalition???... Nada.

[Jack]

Even Chowd Nation admits this dude is a class act!!

It doesn't matter if he is GAY or not...

Hell, I don't care if any of you are...

Derek Jeter is one hell of a baseball playerf!!



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Derek Sanderson Jeter was born on June 26, 1974 in Pequannock, NJ. After spending the early years of his life growing up less than 30 miles away from Yankee Stadium, his family moved to Kalamazoo, Michigan where Derek began playing tee-ball at the age of five. Thanks to the influence of his grandmother, he grew up a Yankees fan and idolized outfielder Dave Winfield. Derek would normally return to New Jersey during the summer to visit his grandparents and attend Yankees games.

His early days on the diamond in Kalamazoo were spent honing his skills in the Eastwood, Oakwood and Westwood Little Leagues. When he started playing high school ball in 1989, his talents helped him earn a spot on the Kalamazoo Central varsity team as a freshman. Derek also spent three years playing varsity basketball, where he earned honorable mention All-State. Derek's younger sister, Sharlee, was also multitalented and played basketball, volleyball and softball, while being a member of her high school band.

After batting .557 with seven homers as a junior, Derek hit.508 (30-59) with 4 HR, 23 RBIs, 21 BB and only one strikeout in 23 games his senior year. He got on base 63.7 percent of the time and tallied an impressive .831 slugging percentage. Derek collected several awards at season's end, including the Kalamazoo Area B'nai B'rith Award for Scholar Athlete, the 1992 High School Player of the Year by the American Baseball Coaches Association, the 1992 Gatorade High School Athlete of the Year and USA Today's High School Player of the Year.

That spring, the Yankees drafted Derek with the sixth overall pick in the June 1992 draft. He was the first high school player chosen that year and became the third shortstop selected in Yankees history with a first round pick. Derek also received a scholarship to play baseball at the University of Michigan, where he would attend school in 1992 following his first summer of minor league baseball.

In 1993, his first full-year of professional baseball, Derek was voted the "Most Outstanding Major League Prospect" by South Atlantic League managers after hitting .295 with 5 HR, 71 RBIs and 18 stolen bases at Class-A Greensboro. He was named to the All-Star Team after finishing second in the league in triples (11), third in hits (152) and 11th in batting average. Derek was also voted by Baseball America as the South Atlantic League's Best Defensive Shortstop, Most Exciting Player and Best Infield Arm.

Derek continued to improve and in 1994 he was named the Minor League Player of the Year by Baseball America, The Sporting News, USA Today Baseball Weekly and Topps/NAPBL after hitting .344 with 5 HR, 68 RBIs and 50 stolen bases combined at Triple-A Columbus, Double-A Albany and Class-A Tampa. He was also named the MVP of the Florida State League.

On May 29, 1995, Derek got his first taste of the Majors after Yankee shortstop Tony Fernandez was placed on the disabled list. His big league debut came in Seattle that day, and Derek started at shortstop alongside All-Star infielders Don Mattingly and Wade Boggs. The following day, Derek collected his first two Major League hits and scored his first career run.

In 1996, the Yankees made Derek their first Opening Day rookie shortstop since Tom Tresh in 1962. He responded by hitting his first Major League home run, a solo shot off Cleveland's Dennis Martinez in the fifth inning of a 7-1 Yankees victory. Derek finished his rookie season with a .314 average, 10 HR, 78 RBIs and 14 steals, en route to winning the American League Rookie of the Year Award.

That fall, Derek got his first taste of postseason play, batting .361 to help lead the Yankees to their first World Series title since 1978. Shortly after celebrating his team's championship, Derek initiated the "Turn 2 Foundation," formed to support and create activities and programs designed to motivate youth to "turn to" a healthy lifestyle, academic achievement and leadership development and "turn away" from substances such as drugs and alcohol.

The following season, Derek helped lead the Yankees back to the postseason, where they would lose to Cleveland in the ALDS. New York rebounded by winning a franchise record 114 games in 1998, and would capture its second World Series title in three years. Derek's .324 average, 203 hits, 19 homers and 30 steals helped him earn the first of six All-Star appearances (1998-2002, 2004), and a year later he would bat a career-high .349, as New York cruised to its third championship in four seasons.

In 2000, Derek was named the MVP of both the All-Star Game and the World Series, as the Yankees downed the Mets to capture the Subway Series and a fourth title in Jeter's five seasons in the Majors.

On June 3, 2003 Derek was named Captain of New York Yankees, becoming only the 11th player to be named captain in franchise history, and the first since Don Mattingly retired after the 1995 season. In 2004, he captured his first Gold Glove award, and helped the Yankees earn their tenth straight appearance in the postseason.

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I never knew he was named after the Boston Bruins Great..



Rumor is ... He's His Daddy!!

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From AskMen.com

In sports, an athlete is measured by personal success, team success, fan likeability, and intelligence. Derek Jeter scores high marks in all of the preceding categories. Jeter possesses everything one would want in a model athlete; he performs well under pressure, is good-looking and soft-spoken (yes, we're secure enough in our manhood to admit it), and has tremendous instincts for the game of baseball.

Jeter is one of the cornerstone players of a Yankee team that has won four of the last six baseball championships. He is a tireless worker, never satisfied with his play. He will work countless hours on his fielding and hitting, making him a terrific role model for young baseball fans.


He is tireless in his pursuit of perfection... He loves to stretch with the Help of A-Rod.

He is a Very Good Player!!

[Dinsdale]

I'd just look at the RISP stat and see.

Cardsfan doesn't understand the difference between overall RISP, and making a huge play in the 9th, either with a glove or a bat, that wins the game?

Why doesn't this suprise me?

Don't know which MLB you've been watching, but for about the last 10 years, when I see big games, and it comes down to that one huge moment where history is made, it sure seems to be a #2 with Pinstripes running through it that's making a disproportionate number of those plays.

Ain't always about how many hits you get (sup more than any player has since he began his career), sometimes it's more about when you get them.

Derek Jeter isn't one of the best clutch players in the game -- he's one of the best clutch players in the history of the game.

It's funny that some people are willing to let their Yankee hatred obscure their view of this very obvious truth.

[Bizzarofelice]

I'd just look at the RISP stat and see.

Cardsfan doesn't understand the difference between overall RISP, and making a huge play in the 9th, either with a glove or a bat, that wins the game?

Once again, the beginning of this thread said "better clutch hitter". Diving into the stands doesn't come into play here. But to humor you, seems like self-centered half-wit doesn't understand how murky a concept "clutch" can be.

I like statistics to better understand these notions I hold. I always liked the backs of the baseball cards as much as the Darrell Porter "In Action" on the front. It may take away what some people consider the romance of the game, but I like to think of it as an additional attribute.

[Dinsdale]

I like statistics to better understand these notions I hold.

I'm kinda the same way, actually.

But I also recognize that it's hard to assign a numeric value on every last thing, no matter how hard they might try.

But I don't think anyone has ever come up with a true clutch value system. Sure, you can analyze RISP, RISP in the 9th, RISP in the 9th down 1 run, etc. But I don't think you can quantify that look a superstar gets in their eye that tells the opposing players "you don't have a chance, bitches."

I don't have those statistics, but look no farther than Cal. Career-wise, his numbers aren't particularly stellar...not bad by any means, but not stellar. But if they had a statistic for "brightness of spotlight/ performance ratio," he'd rank pretty high, I'm guessing.

When was the last time you saw Pedro stink it up when it was the Game of the Week?

While statistical analysis provides an overview, I don't think it's really possible to put a value on how certain players manage to do things just a little better than everybody else in proportion to the gravity of the situation. In any sport.

And no one in the current landscape exemplifies this better than His Majes.....I mean Derek Jeter. And no one represents the polar opposite like Alex Rodriguez.