A Good Start

[Hapday]

I'm sorry... who was it that kept holding up the passing of the budget this past year which contained additional spending on important things such as national security...
That's right... your boy Harper.

Really? What line items in the budget concerned national security issues and what ones did Harper hold up?

Any problems the Conservatives had, and rightfully so, with the budget had more to do with the gay marriage issue and the gLiberal's national day plan. If the gLiberals table this legislationi in the fall, do you want to bet as to just which party(ies) will hold this up?

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I'm sorry... who was it that kept holding up the passing of the budget this past year which contained additional spending on important things such as national security...
That's right... your boy Harper.

Really? What line items in the budget concerned national security issues and what ones did Harper hold up?

Oh I don't know... how about the $12.7 billion in the budget which was tabled to go towards National Defence for starters..

Any problems the Conservatives had, and rightfully so, with the budget had more to do with the gay marriage issue and the gLiberal's national day plan.

The budget bill and Bill C-38 (same sex marriage) were two seperate bills. The Conservatives could have easily supported the budget while opposing same sex marriage, in fact initially they did support the budget bill but your boy Harper and company filibustered the house and then flip-flopped saying they didn't support the budget.

If the gLiberals table this legislationi in the fall, do you want to bet as to just which party(ies) will hold this up?

Why would they need to table the legislation again this fall? It finally passed when your boy Harper and his band of idiots were caught with their pants down.

July 20, 2005 - Bill C-38 receives Royal Assent from Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin acting on behalf of ailing Governor General Adrienne Clarkson and is proclaimed into law.

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Oh I don't know... how about the $12.7 billion in the budget which was tabled to go towards National Defence for starters...

That was in the original budget. The Conservatives supported it until the gLiberals decided to jump into bed with the NDP.

The budget bill and Bill C-38 (same sex marriage) were two seperate bills.

Of course, but you know damn well that Conservatives only chance at stopping the same-legislation was to defeat the gLiberals on the budget.

Why would they need to table the legislation again this fall? .

If they are going to grant CSIS the powers they need to track terrorists, it will have to tabled a new one in the house, or Bill C-36 will have to be ammended. Wanna take bets on won't let that pass?

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Oh I don't know... how about the $12.7 billion in the budget which was tabled to go towards National Defence for starters...

That was in the original budget. The Conservatives supported it until the gLiberals decided to jump into bed with the NDP.

Bullshit and you know it Hap.
The Liberals worked out an agreement with the NDP after Harper said he couldn't support the budget and had already tried to bring down the government though non-confidence motions.
The Liberals then turned to the NDP because the Conservatives weren't interested in making parliament work. Only with their obsession to bring the Liberals down.

The budget bill and Bill C-38 (same sex marriage) were two seperate bills.

Of course, but you know damn well that Conservatives only chance at stopping the same-legislation was to defeat the gLiberals on the budget.

But they lost out on both counts...


Move on.

Why would they need to table the legislation again this fall? .

If they are going to grant CSIS the powers they need to track terrorists, it will have to tabled a new one in the house, or Bill C-36 will have to be ammended. Wanna take bets on won't let that pass?

Okay fair enough then, but those two bills have nothing to do with the budget or Bill-C38.
If they table an ammendment to Bill C-36, I would hope that the Conservatives have learned their lesson and vote in favour of it, not obstruct parliament from getting things done in this session like they did for almost the entire last session.
If they table a new bill, then with the exception of the Bloc, I'm fairly sure that even the NDP could agree that it would be for the benefit of all if the Privacy Commissioner approved it...

[Solo]

Hope they start with this POS.


An extreme Muslim cleric whose family have been living on benefits in Britain for 20 years says it would not be 'fair' to deport him.
Speaking after the Prime Minister announced his clampdown, father-of-seven Sheik Omar Bakri said: "I have wives, children, sons-in-law, daughters-in-law. It would be hard on my family if I was deported."

Since Syrian-born Bakri settled in Britain, he and his extended family have raked in benefits amounting to at least £300,000.

He is registered disabled because of an injury to his leg during his childhood, and was recently supplied with a £31,000 Ford Galaxy under the Motability scheme.

Bakri, who lives in a £200,000 home in North London, tops up his £250-a-week benefit payments with an extra £50 incapacity allowance.

He has praised the September 11 terrorists as 'magnificent', called Israel 'a cancer' and said homosexuals should be 'thrown from Big Ben'.

In January, he declared that Britain had become a 'land of war', and called on Muslims to unite behind Al Qaeda. He has supported suicide bombings and urged his followers to kill non-Muslims ' wherever, whenever'.

He also claimed he has no wish to stay in Britain, but his family would suffer if he was deported.

"If they want to change the law and say that people who are here must live within the framework of those rules, then that is fine," said the 45-year-old cleric.

"But they cannot punish people by backdating it for 20 years or so.

"That is not a smart or fair system. Tony Blair should have charged me years ago if that was the case. He did not because I had done nothing wrong."

Bakri also claimed he had tried to dissuade affected young Muslims from carrying out terror attacks in Britain, by telling them that under Islamic law it would be wrong to target a country in which they were living.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... =1770&ct=5

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Hope they start with this POS.


An extreme Muslim cleric whose family have been living on benefits in Britain for 20 years says it would not be 'fair' to deport him.
Speaking after the Prime Minister announced his clampdown, father-of-seven Sheik Omar Bakri said: "I have wives, children, sons-in-law, daughters-in-law. It would be hard on my family if I was deported."

Since Syrian-born Bakri settled in Britain, he and his extended family have raked in benefits amounting to at least £300,000.

He is registered disabled because of an injury to his leg during his childhood, and was recently supplied with a £31,000 Ford Galaxy under the Motability scheme.

Bakri, who lives in a £200,000 home in North London, tops up his £250-a-week benefit payments with an extra £50 incapacity allowance.

He has praised the September 11 terrorists as 'magnificent', called Israel 'a cancer' and said homosexuals should be 'thrown from Big Ben'.

In January, he declared that Britain had become a 'land of war', and called on Muslims to unite behind Al Qaeda. He has supported suicide bombings and urged his followers to kill non-Muslims ' wherever, whenever'.

He also claimed he has no wish to stay in Britain, but his family would suffer if he was deported.

"If they want to change the law and say that people who are here must live within the framework of those rules, then that is fine," said the 45-year-old cleric.

"But they cannot punish people by backdating it for 20 years or so.

"That is not a smart or fair system. Tony Blair should have charged me years ago if that was the case. He did not because I had done nothing wrong."

Bakri also claimed he had tried to dissuade affected young Muslims from carrying out terror attacks in Britain, by telling them that under Islamic law it would be wrong to target a country in which they were living.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... =1770&ct=5

They did or rather he ran before being turfed

[tough love]

Time out, you two.

To The Naughty Room, NOW!!!


Btw, Otis:

July 25, 2005
Imam warns Ottawa to back off Muslims

An extraordinary threat from a Toronto imam.

A controversial Toronto imam warned Public Safety Minister Anne McLellan at a closed-door meeting to stop "terrorizing" Canadian Muslims.

"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control," Aly Hindy, the head of Scarborough's Salaheddin Islamic Centre, recalls telling the minister at the May meeting she held in Toronto with dozens of Muslim leaders.

The minister and her officials have been meeting community leaders to explain they are not targeting Muslims generally, only individuals with possible terrorist links.

He made the point to the minister. Several people who attended shrugged off the imam's remarks, but some Muslims and government agents later approached Mr. Hindy asking him to explain himself.

"The police came to me and said, 'This is a kind of threat,' and I said yes," he said. "But it's for the good of this country.

"And they said, 'Do you know some of the names of those people you expect to cause some problems?' And I said, 'You just open the telephone directory.' "

TICK TOCK

[tough love]

I fear our spineless leadership and it's ever so tolerant to a fault electorate are going to be responcible for not preventing a whole lotta killing.

That said; Mv, what's your Conservative leadership doing about jihad being taught/spread in America?

These eqwar freaks are playing us all.
They are hiding behind the right's and freedom laws of their enemy, while they set up for wave four, and here we are oblivious in our material numbness, waiting on the shit to hit the fan before we react.

I'll say this for eqwar, they got the smarts going for them so far.

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tl, if you're looking for me to agree with you that hate mongering towards Canada or those supporting a holy war be waged against Canadians should not be permitted on our soil.. then fine, I'll agree.

But if you're looking for some sort of Gestapo to go out and round up anyone that might be construed as anti-Canadian because they don't hold the same religious beliefs as you or I, then no, I won't support what is the first step down a slippery slope towards ethnic cleansing based on religious or ethnic background.

Remember WWII... how the Japanese here in Canada were rounded up and forced into POW camps...
What did that accomplish?

So, you agree that hate mongering and inciting violence shouldn't be permitted in Canada, but you refuse to take any steps to prevent it.'

Good job, fuckhead. Just another typically spineless liberal shitstain.

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Dipshit,

Just because I don't buy into the fear-mongering neo-con preferred J Edgar Hoover like round up of anyone that looks or might not be a Christian doesn't mean that nothing is being done about it.
I believe that CSIS and our police forces are more than capable of dealing with those that promote hate crimes here without them taking a witch hunt approach.
Hell for that matter, it's not as if Canada's got its own citizens running around blowing up federal buildings, planting bombs in Olympic parks or sending them through the mail to worry about on top of any supposed threat of jihad.

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I believe that CSIS and our police forces are more than capable of dealing with those that promote hate crimes here without them taking a witch hunt approach.

Famous last words.

They're singing a different tune in Britain these days. Don't think your day isn't coming.

What's your point?

Britain has been dealing with terrorists for 30 years already, long before the U.S even gave a shit about it. Where was all your outrage for the IRA bombings prior to 9/11 eh?
Did all of their cameras and knowledge prevent it from happening?
No.

Bottom line is if it's going to happen all the prevention in the world won't stop it from happening.

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Bottom line is if it's going to happen all the prevention in the world won't stop it from happening.

That strategy worked brilliantly for Bubba. Waiting around until 9/11 happened was an outstanding plan. :roll:

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Bottom line is if it's going to happen all the prevention in the world won't stop it from happening.

That strategy worked brilliantly for Bubba. Waiting around until 9/11 happened was an outstanding plan. :roll:

So what do you propose should be done then?

Build a wall ala East Germany/Russia, kick out any and all middle easterners reguardless of whether they are first generation, second generation or third generation American citizens?
Deport anyone that has any ties whatsoever to the Middle East, Pakistan, India, Africa or any non-white Christian country?
Deny anyone a visa that is applying from those countries, visited them or has relatives or friends that have visited them?

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kick out any and all middle easterners reguardless of whether they are first generation, second generation or third generation American citizens?
Deport anyone that has any ties whatsoever to the Middle East, Pakistan, India, Africa or any non-white Christian country?
Deny anyone a visa that is applying from those countries, visited them or has relatives or friends that have visited them?

Yes, that would do for a start.

Why stop there Slobidan Mvscalosevic, how about some world wide ethnic cleansing of all non white, non Christians for good measure?

:roll:

[tough love]

I think the government has got to take jihad seriously.
By jihad, I mean anyone who believes that it is their religious calling to kill us for Allah, or whatever they call their hate inspiration.
Allowing the dangerous eqwar approved cult like minded jihad to exist within ones borders is simply ludicrous.
We need some strong unliberal like anti_hate laws with real unliberal like consequences for those who break said unliberal like anti_hate laws.
With these freaks, it would not be a stretch to call this new unliberal like measure, a anti_murder law, cuz that is exactly what those fuctards are about.

Otis, quess what?
Extreme Muslims want the ALL of this earth for themselves.
Wake up and smell the danger.
Islam is not a religion based on the will of the creator, it is a cult based on the teaching's of a man, and has become a very horrid cult at that.
I reacon that there is a 90% chance that the Toronto area will be that cults first target.
Drop your foolish liberal uppity and start showing concern for the wellbeing of the decent folk around you.

FYI...You do realize that Bosnia now belongs to eqwar, and will play heavily within their future plans.
Terrorist experts refer to it as El Qaeda's gateway to Europe.
Just saying.

Anywho; if you get the chance to catch, Kevin Newmans' (Global National) 'Know Your Enemy', my guess it would cast that liberal demon right out of you once and for all Praise the Lord. :wink:

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I think the government has got to take jihad seriously.
By jihad, I mean anyone who believes that it is their religious calling to kill us for Allah, or whatever they call their hate inspiration.
Allowing the dangerous eqwar approved cult like minded jihad to exist within ones borders is simply ludicrous.
We need some strong unliberal like anti_hate laws with real unliberal like consequences for those who break said unliberal like anti_hate laws.
With these freaks, it would not be a stretch to call this new unliberal like measure, a anti_murder law, cuz that is exactly what those fuctards are about.

Otis, quess what?
Extreme Muslims want the ALL of this earth for themselves.
Wake up and smell the danger.
Islam is not a religion based on the will of the creator, it is a cult based on the teaching's of a man, and has become a very horrid cult at that.
I reacon that there is a 90% chance that the Toronto area will be that cults first target.
Drop your foolish liberal uppity and start showing concern for the wellbeing of the decent folk around you.

FYI...You do realize that Bosnia now belongs to eqwar, and will play heavily within their future plans.
Terrorist experts refer to it as El Qaeda's gateway to Europe.
Just saying.

Anywho; if you get the chance to catch, Kevin Newmans' (Global National) 'Know Your Enemy', my guess it would cast that liberal demon right out of you once and for all Praise the Lord. :wink:

tl, you're about as far removed from what the most likely target city would be but if you want to live your life in fear and paranoia, then carry on doing it.
People here refuse to allow those that would wage a jihad on us to get that deep in our heads that we'd cower in fear over what might or might not happen.
Unlike you I suppose, I have faith in our police forces, CBSA, intelligence services and the job they are doing.
Some of us loyal Canadians have to have their back.
But don't let that stop you from preaching from your anti-Liberal pulpit.

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Yes, that would do for a start.

Why stop there Slobidan Mvscalosevic, how about some world wide ethnic cleansing of all non white, non Christians for good measure?

:roll:

Well, you see the thing of it is we aren't doing any of this for "good measure".

I'm sure it must all seem so pointless to you, but that's only because your head is stuck up your ass.

We are doing these things because they are killing us and I'm afraid that I really couldn't care less why.

You want to take on over half the world's population, wipe them out and I'm the one with my head stuck up my ass?
Well excuse me if I don't sign up for your ethnic cleansing ideology.
I'll take my chances that our trusted officials will capably handle any possible future terrorist attack or jihad here when and if it ever happens.
But hey, thanks for reminding us that extremists come in all different races too. Not just muslims.

[tough love]

Otis Wrote:
live your life in fear and paranoia,

There you have it.
This is why I fear that the Liberal curse will drag us all down.
You can't hide behind toleration from everything, 'Bro.
Rose colored glasses can only do so much to blind one to EVIL.

JIHAD WANT'S US ALL DEAD<>KIDS ARE BEING TAUGH JIHAD IN OUR BACK YARDS<>PUTTING AN END TO THAT REAL DANGER IS NOT BEING PARANOID, IT"S BEING PRUDENT.

WELCOME TO CANADA>>>SEE JIHAD HAPPY DANCE UPON OUR LIBERAL WEAKNESS.


Hey mv, have you checked this out?



Terrorists Among Us: Jihad In America Jihad in America, a PBS documentary first aired nationwide in 1994, was produced by investigative reporter Steven Emerson after the first bombing of the World Trade Towers in 1993. The documentary was recently updated following terrorist attacks in the United States on September 11, 2001.

http://philologos.org/guide/videos/jihad.htm

It's dated, and it's good that your guys are now on the stick, still imo, America hasn't done enough to rid yourselves of the jihad influence, but hugh props for being miles ahead of our limpy ostrich poser leadership.

HATE HATE

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Here ya' go, Tina.

[tough love]

Here you go, Liberal.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Oh, a Manitoba tuxedo.

How thoughtful.

:)

[tough love]

^
More like the end result of what will occur when pure evil jihad hate butts heads with complacent over_tolerant oblivious liberal mindset, but your body bag take was still pretty darn funny.

:)

Wpg will have to pick up the pace if it wants to keep it's murder capitol record alive.

Hog Town. :roll: