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Softball Bat wrote: Thu Apr 10, 2025 10:22 pm
We must solemnly tell the US that a tariff-wielding barbarian who attempts to force countries
to call and beg for mercy can never expect that call from China


- Chinese Foreign Ministry Office

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You should be.

Your Dear Leader has taken the nation to a very bad place.




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Softball Bat wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:22 am You should be.
Not even a little. You should change your diaper.
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I wonder how much Pee Wee German cleared before the market went back into the tank....
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I am keeping a watch on the bond market.

The 10 yr yield is surging UP again, and this is not good news.
It is very near the level it was two days ago when Dumpy, guiding the vessel toward the iceberg, decided to roll out and change course.

Confidence is lost, and the only ones telling everyone things are fine are Dump sycophants.
lol

Not comforting.




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Don’t worry, we’ll be fine. Tariffs aren’t taxes.

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Funny. The only country that appears to be ostracized, in danger of economic disruption, and even a bit scared is…

China.
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It's everybody, Sam.

Dumpy has skrewed this up MAJORLY.


poptart wrote:Confidence is lost
This is a big part of the issue.

Everyone can see the crazy incompetence, and what is supposed to happen 90 days from now?
Or before?

Self-induced instability that affects the entire world.

This doesn't end without -----> pain.

Sorry to inform you.
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Softball Bat wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:00 am It's everybody, Sam.

Dumpy has skrewed this up MAJORLY.


poptart wrote:Confidence is lost
This is a big part of the issue.

Everyone can see the crazy incompetence, and what is supposed to happen 90 days from now?
Or before?

Self-induced instability that affects the entire world.

This doesn't end without -----> pain.

Sorry to inform you.
I respect your opinion, tart, but I don’t see what you’re seeing. Looks like everyone is coming around. Well, except for Xi. And if the Chinese economy goes in the shitter, he may be out of a job.
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Softball Bat wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 12:37 am I am keeping a watch on the bond market.

The 10 yr yield is surging UP again, and this is not good news.
It is very near the level it was two days ago when Dumpy, guiding the vessel toward the iceberg, decided to roll out and change course.

Confidence is lost, and the only ones telling everyone things are fine are Dump sycophants.
lol

Not comforting.




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How was your life today? Any different? Did you experience a savage violation from the ThrobbingBellEndofDoom? Or maybe a flaccid yet feebly determined bumping against your taint? Anything? Or was it just another day?
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Sam wrote:Looks like everyone is coming around.
Coming around to what?

What are the countries supposed to be coming around to?

Articulate it.
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mvscal wrote:How was your life today? Any different? Did you experience a savage violation from the ThrobbingBellEndofDoom? Or maybe a flaccid yet feebly determined bumping against your taint? Anything? Or was it just another day?
Nice diversion.

Everything was fine on the Titanic... until it wasn't fine.


Your guy has fvcked this up, BIGLY.
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Softball Bat wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:16 am
Sam wrote:Looks like everyone is coming around.
Coming around to what?

What are the countries supposed to be coming around to?

Articulate it.
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Before I respond to the link, I want to ask you something, because I don't want to put words in your mouth.

What has taken place over the past week was all about getting to where we are right now, where a 90 day *pause* has been established on the draconian tariffs Trump rolled out, and countries will need to "come to Trump (kiss his @ss, as he says) and make deals on trade?

Is this your take?
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poptart wrote:What has taken place over the past week was all about getting to where we are right now, where a 90 day *pause* has been established on the draconian tariffs Trump rolled out, and countries will need to "come to Trump (kiss his @ss, as he says) and make deals on trade?
I will @ss ume that Sam will concede that what has taken place over the past week was completely unnecessary, as well as damaging on multiple fronts.

But maybe Sam would have disappointed me, and not made such a concession.

At any rate, I will respond to Sam's link...


The gist of the link is that now countries will line up over the next 90 days to make trade deals with the U.S., and this will be very good for the U.S.
My response...

When negotiating, it is advantageous to deal from a position of strength.
Trump had initially placed a 37% tariff on Serbia.
Now it is a 10% tariff on Serbia.

Rhetorical question...
When negotiating with Serbia, wouldn't it be a stronger negotiating position to have a 37% tariff in place, and negotiate from there, rather than having a 10% tariff in place, and negotiating from there?

Everyone (countries around the world) saw Trump cave on his initial draconian tariff positions.
They can plainly see that he caved because his people informed him that the U.S. bond market was beginning to crater, and it would a full-blown economic crisis.
The effect is that Donald has clearly weakened his negotiating position, because the U.S. is facing serious economic pressure due to the original course Don set forth on.

Everyone (countries around the world) can also see that this U.S. President is making things up as he goes, and is surrounded by lemming yes-men who roll out and prop up every insane idea the president decides upon.
Confidence is shot, and nobody (countries around the world) can predict with any certainty at all what the environment will be like in 90 days, or before 90 days.
Manufacturing is not coming back in this environment, and deals will also not be happening.

Why would countries deal in good faith with an individual such as D. Trump?
The simple answer is, they won't.


War is what will be happening.
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Trump and Xi are having a nice litle d!ck measuring contest.

China raises tariff on US imports to 125%.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn4jjw30d ... 6ef0a94444
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Sorry. Went to bed.

Looks to me like we’ll be working out deals that are more to our advantage with the majority of our trade partners.
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Trump caving:



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poptart wrote:I am keeping a watch on the bond market.

The 10 yr yield is surging UP again, and this is not good news.
The 10 yr yield fell overnight (U.S. overnight), but in the last two hours it has surged again.

It is at 4.553 as I type.
It was at this level (actually a bit lower) the other day when Donny rolled out and changed course with his tariff paln.

Equities have fallen into the red.

I'd pay attention to the bond market, but it is bedtime for me.

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The 10 yr treasury yield jacked up to almost 4.6% on Friday, before settling down to end the trading day at 4.497%.

This is disturbing for a couple reasons.

1. It is elevated to the same level it was when Dump opted to cave on his original tariff paln.

2. This is more disturbing than #1. The 10 yr yield and the U.S. dollar are known to move in the same pattern. Yield goes up, dollar goes up. Yield goes down, dollar goes down.
But as you can see from this chart, the pattern has been broken.



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In uncertain economic times, people have always bought U.S. bonds, for their safety.
But now, people are not buying the U.S. bonds.
Trust in the U.S. appears to be diminished.

And likewise, in uncertain times, people have tended to hold U.S. dollars, for their safety.
But not now.
Now they are holding something else, because we can see that the dollar is fading.
Again, trust in the U.S. is diminished.

Having both U.S. dollars and U.S. bonds fading at the same time signals ------> doom.


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Softball Bat wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 9:59 am In uncertain economic times, people have always bought U.S. bonds, for their safety.
But now, people are not buying the U.S. bonds.
Trust in the U.S. appears to be diminished.

And likewise, in uncertain times, people have tended to hold U.S. dollars, for their safety.
But not now.
Now they are holding something else, because we can see that the dollar is fading.
Again, trust in the U.S. is diminished.

Gosh, I wonder why.

Probably because of all the WINNING going on now, right?
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Who could ever imagine that having an unhinged lunatic start a trade war with the world is not good for a country?


13th - bad Trump news
14th - bad war news




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Trump exempts smartphones, computers and chips from ‘reciprocal’ tariffs
The clarification comes after Trump earlier this month imposed steep 125% tariffs on Chinese imports—a move that had raised concerns for technology giants like Apple, which manufactures the majority of its products in China.

The HSN codes excluded from the reciprocal tariff order cover a range of tech products, including smartphones, telecom equipment, chipmaking machinery, recording devices, data processing machines and printed circuit board assemblies.
Can there be any doubt that this is blatant manipulation of the markets to enrich certain people?


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mvscal wrote: Fri Apr 11, 2025 1:08 am Or maybe a flaccid yet feebly determined bumping against your taint?
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Now 'tart, this would be a good time to reflect upon the Jesus-in-the-boat story.
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Mikey wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:08 pm Trump exempts smartphones, computers and chips from ‘reciprocal’ tariffs
The clarification comes after Trump earlier this month imposed steep 125% tariffs on Chinese imports—a move that had raised concerns for technology giants like Apple, which manufactures the majority of its products in China.

The HSN codes excluded from the reciprocal tariff order cover a range of tech products, including smartphones, telecom equipment, chipmaking machinery, recording devices, data processing machines and printed circuit board assemblies.
Can there be any doubt that this is blatant manipulation of the markets to enrich certain people?


https://www.cnbctv18.com/technology/don ... 30.htm/amp
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Mikey wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:08 pm Trump exempts smartphones, computers and chips from ‘reciprocal’ tariffs
The clarification comes after Trump earlier this month imposed steep 125% tariffs on Chinese imports—a move that had raised concerns for technology giants like Apple, which manufactures the majority of its products in China.

The HSN codes excluded from the reciprocal tariff order cover a range of tech products, including smartphones, telecom equipment, chipmaking machinery, recording devices, data processing machines and printed circuit board assemblies.
Can there be any doubt that this is blatant manipulation of the markets to enrich certain people?


https://www.cnbctv18.com/technology/don ... 30.htm/amp

Well, he's been convicted of criminal business fraud.
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FiatLux wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 6:52 pm
Mikey wrote: Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:08 pm Trump exempts smartphones, computers and chips from ‘reciprocal’ tariffs
The clarification comes after Trump earlier this month imposed steep 125% tariffs on Chinese imports—a move that had raised concerns for technology giants like Apple, which manufactures the majority of its products in China.

The HSN codes excluded from the reciprocal tariff order cover a range of tech products, including smartphones, telecom equipment, chipmaking machinery, recording devices, data processing machines and printed circuit board assemblies.
Can there be any doubt that this is blatant manipulation of the markets to enrich certain people?


https://www.cnbctv18.com/technology/don ... 30.htm/amp

Well, he's been convicted of criminal business fraud.
But Biden is the most corruptest ever, so this is all OK.

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Gotta read the entire article.

“ These consumer electronics, which are rarely manufactured in the United States, would require years to be domestically produced, a Bloomberg report highlighted.

The exemption also extends to semiconductor manufacturing equipment—a crucial decision for companies like Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSMC), which has announced major investments in US chip fabrication facilities. Other global chipmakers are also expected to benefit from the reprieve, it added.

However, Bloomberg noted the relief may be short-lived. The exclusions are tied to the initial tariff order, which avoids stacking multiple levies on top of existing country-wide rates. Observers suggest these goods may soon face lower, sector-specific tariffs instead—particularly for China.”
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You obviously don’t get it. In the short term it’s not about the tariffs, per se, but the financial markets’ reaction to them. That entire sector tanked last week with the first tariffs announcement, made somewhat of a comeback for one day with the 90 day delay, and then dropped again the next day. Did you see the video of the WH meeting where Trump was boasting to some of his billionaire cronies about how much money he had made them the previous day? $Billions. I read somewhere that MTG was trading in these stocks like she had previous knowledge of what was happening.

This is called “insider trading” and is highly illegal. You can bet that the tech sector will jump again on Monday, enabling more insiders to sell what they bought at deflated prices and make even more of a killing.

But…you’re fine with that because he’s not Crooked Joe Biden and your wife’s retirement seems to be doing OK.
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Martha Stewart went to prison for much less.
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Donald rolled out with...

Draconian "reciprocal tariffs" on just about every country on Earth.
The bond market was cratering, so he put a 90 day "pause" on things and brought the levels down to 10% for just about every nation. 25% on Canada and Mexico.
He put a 50% tariff on China.
Then he jacked it up to 90%.
Then he jacked it up to 104%.
Then 125%.
Then 145%.
Now in the last 24 hrs we have been told that electronics were declared to be exempt from the China tariff.
But now WH spokeman H. Lutnick has stated that electronics are potentially not exempt.



LMAO!

The Keystone Cops are running the U.S.



poptart wrote:Everyone (countries around the world) can also see that this U.S. President is making things up as he goes, and is surrounded by lemming yes-men who roll out and prop up every insane idea the president decides upon.
Confidence is shot, and nobody (countries around the world) can predict with any certainty at all what the environment will be like in 90 days, or before 90 days.
Manufacturing is not coming back in this environment, and deals will also not be happening.

Why would countries deal in good faith with an individual such as D. Trump?
The simple answer is, they won't.

War is what will be happening.
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Relax. The Guardian detests Trump and they published this:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... moil-trump
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:shock:

This little-known earthquake fault has been quiet. But it can unleash devastation across SoCal

The fault is capable of generating a magnitude 7.8 earthquake, said seismologist Lucy Jones, a Caltech research associate.

A particularly frightening, and plausible, prospect would be an earthquake that races up the Elsinore fault northwest onto the Whittier fault. That would "pour all the energy straight into the L.A. Basin. It's one of the scary earthquakes," Jones said.

According to one hypothetical scenario published by the U.S. Geological Survey, a magnitude 7.8 earthquake on the Elsinore fault zone, including the Whittier fault, could bring "violent" shaking — enough to heavily damage buildings or even jolt them off their foundations — over a relatively large area of the Southland, including El Monte, Hacienda Heights, Rowland Heights, Pico Rivera, Whittier, La Habra, Brea, Yorba Linda, Placentia, Chino Hills, Corona, Lake Elsinore, Murrieta and Temecula.

That's a much larger area than the part of the San Fernando Valley that saw "violent" shaking during the 1994 Northridge earthquake, which was a magnitude 6.7.

"Severe" shaking — enough to topple chimneys and greatly damage poorly built buildings — may be felt a bit farther away from the ruptured fault, including in downtown L.A., East L.A., Long Beach, Alhambra, West Covina, Pomona, Ontario, Riverside, Downey, Norwalk, Santa Ana, Garden Grove, Anaheim, Orange, Irvine and Lake Forest.

And "very strong" shaking could be felt farther out, including the San Fernando Valley, the Westside, South Bay, the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, the Orange County coast, Rancho Cucamonga, Fontana and San Bernardino.

No earthquake in modern times has been this powerful, or triggered such substantial, damaging shaking across such a wide swath of California.
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Roux wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:51 am downtown L.A., East L.A., Long Beach, Alhambra, West Covina, Pomona, Ontario, Riverside, Downey, Norwalk, Santa Ana, Garden Grove, Anaheim, Orange, Irvine and Lake Forest...farther out, the San Fernando Valley, the Westside, South Bay, the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, the Orange County coast, Rancho Cucamonga, Fontana and San Bernardino.

IIIIIII want to hear from a CHARGER FAN!!!

Roux wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:51 amEl Monte, Hacienda Heights, Rowland Heights, Pico Rivera, Whittier, La Habra, Brea, Yorba Linda, Placentia, Chino Hills, Corona, Lake Elsinore, Murrieta and Temecula.
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Rack the troll from Mission Villejo.
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mvscal wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:34 am
Roux wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:51 am downtown L.A., East L.A., Long Beach, Alhambra, West Covina, Pomona, Ontario, Riverside, Downey, Norwalk, Santa Ana, Garden Grove, Anaheim, Orange, Irvine and Lake Forest...farther out, the San Fernando Valley, the Westside, South Bay, the ports of Los Angeles and Long Beach, the Orange County coast, Rancho Cucamonga, Fontana and San Bernardino.

IIIIIII want to hear from a CHARGER FAN!!!

Roux wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:51 amEl Monte, Hacienda Heights, Rowland Heights, Pico Rivera, Whittier, La Habra, Brea, Yorba Linda, Placentia, Chino Hills, Corona, Lake Elsinore, Murrieta and Temecula.
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That article appeared this morning in the LA Times, which we have delivered. It actually prompted me to write a letter to the editor which, unfortunately, I didn’t save (you write it on an online form) or I would copy it here.

Besides their usual clickbait imagining the worst possible scenario, which has never happened in recorded history, and assuming that we are in imminent danger, they often act like San Diego County is not part of Southern California or of any interest to any of their readers. On second thought I should probably be glad they’re ignoring us.

The map below was included as part of the article. Anyone who is familiar with this area can see that the map is cut off north of the county line in Orange County along the coast and Riverside County farther inland. The empty space where “Elsinore fault zone” is written is the Santa Ana Mountains in the north a Camp Pendleton in the south. The fault zone extends for miles past the end of the map, which doesn’t even show Julian, where the epicenter was. We live about 13 km south of the epicenter. The fault line runs basically along Interstate 15 and they list a bunch of cities along that line. Corona, Lake Elsinore, Murrieta, Temecula which is right on the Riverside County line a few miles north of here. As far as the Times is concerned, I guess the fault zone ends at the county line.

At least the writer acknowledged that Julian and the epicenter of the recent quake are in San Diego County, even though they couldn’t show it on the map.

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Mikey wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:34 am It actually prompted me to write a letter to the editor

Rack Mikey.
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Mikey wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 5:27 am Inside outside, USA.
took me a minute :oops: lol!
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