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Question for the "independents": are you registered in the Independent party, or are you not enrolled in a party?

Not that I give a fuck, but there is a difference.

I did not register independent. I had previously registered republican, because I'm lazy and took advantage of a guy sitting in front of the super market, but I didn't vote republican.

That way when they call for money I get to tell them I changed my mind because I didn't like their policies. :)

So what is the difference

Some Damn Retard wrote:Question for the "independents": are you registered in the Independent party, or are you not enrolled in a party?

Not that I give a fuck, but there is a difference.

I used to be registered independant- but changed to Democrat so I could vote in the primary. But I do vote across party lines if I feel the other guys have a better canidate

I didn't realize that Indys couldn't vote in primaries. What if there are propositions on the ballot?

Cali is like that. Special election coming up this November.

Dude at the super market wouldn't let me register any way but Republican.

mvscal wrote: There is an American Independent Party and then there are small 'I' independents who aren't affiliated with a political party.

Cheers for that.

I'm a registered voter, that's about it.

No need to hitch my wagon to a specific party. Yet.

mvscal wrote:

Dr_Phibes wrote:So what is the difference

There is an American Independent Party and then there are small 'I' independents who aren't affiliated with a political party.

The term used (at least here in NY) for those registered to vote but not enrolled in a specific party are "NE's", short for Non-enrolled. An Indpependent is someone enrolled in the Independent Party.

In New York, you can be on more than one ballot line in a general election. The Republicans and Democrats are obviously the biggest two, but the Independent and Conversative parties carry weight at the state and local level. Most of the time the Rep and Dem candidates vie for the Independent and Conversative party endorsement because it gives them additional lines on the ballot, and a few votes that go with it. Also, for example, if a democrat voter does not like the democrat candidate, but would never vote for a republican, they can vote for the republican candidate on the Independent or Conservative lines, if the republican has their endorsement.

Working Families, Veterans Party, Green Party, are some of the other parties that endorse candidates and carry lesser amounts of weight.

Mister Bushice wrote:I didn't realize that Indys couldn't vote in primaries. What if there are propositions on the ballot?

You can only vote in a primary for a party you are registered in. If you are registered in the Independent Party, you can vote in their primary. If you are not enrolled in any party, you can't vote in primaries.

To my knowledge, NY does not have propostions on primary ballots, only general elections.

I registered Republican, but also only so that I could vote in primaries. In CA, there's always been a big problem with ultra-ultra-right wing candidates winning Rep primaries for Gov. I decided that I wanted a say in who was offered up as an opposition candidate to the socialists that the left usually provides.

I am registered as an independent with no party association. In my state, I cannot vote in the primaries, which is understandable. Why should I get a choice in a party I don't belong to? But I can vote for any propositions that could be tied to a primary. I just don't get to draw a line from one part of an arrow to another for either party, until the general election. Suits me just fine. I don't like the two-party system, so I won't feed into it - it's the only way to change the system.

mvscal wrote:

Variable wrote:In CA, there's always been a big problem with ultra-ultra-right wing candidates winning Rep primaries for Gov.

Such as?

eventually that scumbag lawyer who lost to davis for one

Some Damn Retard wrote:

mvscal wrote:

Dr_Phibes wrote:So what is the difference

There is an American Independent Party and then there are small 'I' independents who aren't affiliated with a political party.

The term used (at least here in NY) for those registered to vote but not enrolled in a specific party are "NE's", short for Non-enrolled. An Indpependent is someone enrolled in the Independent Party.

In New York, you can be on more than one ballot line in a general election. The Republicans and Democrats are obviously the biggest two, but the Independent and Conversative parties carry weight at the state and local level. Most of the time the Rep and Dem candidates vie for the Independent and Conversative party endorsement because it gives them additional lines on the ballot, and a few votes that go with it. Also, for example, if a democrat voter does not like the democrat candidate, but would never vote for a republican, they can vote for the republican candidate on the Independent or Conservative lines, if the republican has their endorsement.

Working Families, Veterans Party, Green Party, are some of the other parties that endorse candidates and carry lesser amounts of weight.

If you're from Rochester, you should know that it is not the "Independent Party", it is the Independence Party.

http://ipny.org/

BTW: The Board of Elections uses the term "blanks" to describe voters not registered with any recognized political party.

Didn't MTLR run into some resistance trying to register outside of the repub/democratic ranks?

Mister Bushice wrote:Didn't MTLR run into some resistance trying to register outside of the repub/democratic ranks?

Yea, he tried to register as a Libertarian. The party hack at the Board of Elections didn't like the idea so much.

BSmack wrote:

Some Damn Retard wrote:

mvscal wrote: There is an American Independent Party and then there are small 'I' independents who aren't affiliated with a political party.

The term used (at least here in NY) for those registered to vote but not enrolled in a specific party are "NE's", short for Non-enrolled. An Indpependent is someone enrolled in the Independent Party.

In New York, you can be on more than one ballot line in a general election. The Republicans and Democrats are obviously the biggest two, but the Independent and Conversative parties carry weight at the state and local level. Most of the time the Rep and Dem candidates vie for the Independent and Conversative party endorsement because it gives them additional lines on the ballot, and a few votes that go with it. Also, for example, if a democrat voter does not like the democrat candidate, but would never vote for a republican, they can vote for the republican candidate on the Independent or Conservative lines, if the republican has their endorsement.

Working Families, Veterans Party, Green Party, are some of the other parties that endorse candidates and carry lesser amounts of weight.

If you're from Rochester, you should know that it is not the "Independent Party", it is the Independence Party.

http://ipny.org/

BTW: The Board of Elections uses the term "blanks" to describe voters not registered with any recognized political party.

You are correct. A registered Independent is one who is registered in the Independence Party.

And Katmode, you dumb fuck, you are not a registered independent, you are a registered voter, not enrolled in a party.


Not sure what you mean by blanks. In our County, the term is "NE", short for non-enrolled. NE is universal in the county, within the party workings as well as the BOE.

Some Damn Retard wrote:Not sure what you mean by blanks. In our County, the term is "NE", short for non-enrolled. NE is universal in the county, within the party workings as well as the BOE.

Which county would that be? It has been a while since I pulled voter reg lists from the Monroe Country BOE, but I was pretty sure they still used the term "blank" to describe someone not registered with a party. But, like I said, it has been a while.

Some Damn Retard wrote:
And Katmode, you dumb fuck, you are not a registered independent, you are a registered voter, not enrolled in a party.

Tard, This is from our state website.

If you register No Party (Independent)...

http://www.state.ok.us/~elections/vrform.pdf

You are talking out of your ass, dumb fuck.

not registered. dont vote in primarys. make all attempts to vote for the lesser of two worthless fucks. follow in the footsteps of my father as having never voted for the winner of a presidential election.. granted im only 28 and have only voted for prez 3 times....

KatMode wrote:

Some Damn Retard wrote:
And Katmode, you dumb fuck, you are not a registered independent, you are a registered voter, not enrolled in a party.

Tard, This is from our state website.

If you register No Party (Independent)...

http://www.state.ok.us/~elections/vrform.pdf

You are talking out of your ass, dumb fuck.

It appears you are correct. I assume from the link there is no Independent party as there is in NY.

In essence, our NE is your Independent. Our Independent is your party affiliated voter.

I'm not talking out of my ass, just wrong in regards to your state.

Did a little snooping and it looks like the NYS BOE still uses the term BLANKS to describe non affiliated voters.

http://www.elections.state.ny.us/enroll ... _apr05.htm

And, some snooping at the Monroe COunty site indicates that Blank is still the prefered term.

http://www.monroecounty.gov/org87.asp?o ... =&storyID=&

Where you getting your info SDR?

BTW: Lab Rat might be interested in clicking on the link next to blank. The BOE is playing some mind games with the non recognized parties. See if any of you all pick up on it.

BWahahaha - MtLRs party is ranked below pot smokers. Perhaps that's why he gets the cold shoulder when he goes in there. :)

mvscal wrote:

Variable wrote:In CA, there's always been a big problem with ultra-ultra-right wing candidates winning Rep primaries for Gov.

Such as?

Dan Lundgren & Bill Jones to name two.

BSmack wrote:Did a little snooping and it looks like the NYS BOE still uses the term BLANKS to describe non affiliated voters.

http://www.elections.state.ny.us/enroll ... _apr05.htm

And, some snooping at the Monroe COunty site indicates that Blank is still the prefered term.

http://www.monroecounty.gov/org87.asp?o ... =&storyID=&

Where you getting your info SDR?

BTW: Lab Rat might be interested in clicking on the link next to blank. The BOE is playing some mind games with the non recognized parties. See if any of you all pick up on it.

I live in Onondaga County.

We call them NE's. People I have worked with on state level campaigns use the term NE as well.

Blank probably refers to the voter registration card; you leave that section blank as opposed to filling in a little circle for a party. i've never heard voters referred to as blanks.

Anecdotal evidence:

Mahoney campaign rolls out its bus


Syracuse mayoral candidate takes former airport vehicle to several city locations.
Sunday, September 18, 2005
By Frederic Pierce
Staff writer
What does Syracuse mayoral candidate Joanie Mahoney have in common with "Huuuuge" Hyundai pitchman Billy Fuccillo?

Over the next few months, Syracuse residents are likely to see both of their likenesses on the side of a bus.

Mahoney on Saturday unveiled "The Expect More Express," a former airport bus covered with a shrink-wrapped campaign advertisement for Mahoney. It's the same type of commercial coating Fuccillo and other advertisers pay to wrap around city Centro buses.


"It's like a mobile billboard," Mahoney said Saturday. "I hope people see it every day."

The Republican challenger to Democratic Mayor Matt Driscoll and a handful of her supporters rolled the bus through eight city neighborhoods Saturday, kicking off what Mahoney calls her fall campaign.

Mahoney greeted Syracuse University football fans on their way to the Carrier Dome, knocked on doors in the Strathmore and Tipperary Hill neighborhoods and shook hands with families at the International Arts and Puppet Festival on North Salina Street during a daylong schedule of campaign events.

"As I was knocking on doors, I noticed people had the game on and I was able to keep track of the score," Mahoney said of SU's game against the University of Virginia. "Everywhere I went, people were wonderful and they knew who I was. That felt good."

Mahoney is waging an uphill battle to unseat Driscoll, an incumbent Democrat in a city where party enrollment is overwhelmingly in his favor.

Although she has been campaigning since late spring, Saturday's schedule of stops marks a shift to a more visible phase of her election bid, Mahoney said.

"I'm going to be knocking on doors every day," Mahoney said. "And I'm going to knock on everybody's door: Republican, Democrat and nonenrolled."


http://www.syracuse.com/news/poststanda ... xml&coll=1



Based on what you posted B, I'm guessing they call voter registrations that do not have a party indicated "blanks", and the people behind the registrations "NE's".

I will email the BOE tommorrow and ask the question, and post her response.

Cut and paste from an email from the Commissioner of the Board of Elections:

"NE's and blanks are the same thing - Some counties use NE and some use blank. Kind of like election districts and precincts."

Here in Monroe County the BOE term was blanks. However, as your GOP candidate in Syracuse is aware of, using the "blanks" does carry with it some negative connotations. Which is why I have very rarely heard the term used outside the BOE and die hard political operatives. Certainly no candidate in Monroe County worth a damn at PR would use the term blanks in a public speaking setting.