Arctic Balst

[Innocent Bystander]

PLEASE explain this graph to me:

Who said climate doesn't naturally change over a 600 million year period? Do you know what the concern, at the most base level, actually is?

Is it true Wisconsin used to be magnetic north pole?

Also, what is the base level concern?

[Innocent Bystander]

Do you know what the concern, at the most base level, actually is?

Wolftard had to put on a comfy sweater today, so everything is fine.

TAKE THAT, science!

Big O deserves to be as comfy as he wants.

[EAP]

Do you have any fuckin clue what an ice age means to humanity?
Or are you a part of the leftist cockroach community with nothing to worry about?

Pause. You claimed corruption. Mgo asked for an example. You can't turn it around on him by demanding he provide the counter-examples first.

I hate phone-posting. I don't know how to use it most efficiently, and my inability to share URLs is an embarassing bit of tech ignorance.

However, both of you should go to the discussion page for

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of scientists who disagree with the scientific consensus on global warming

if you're really interested in what self-appointed gatekeepers on both sides are debating, and why. The list isn't as important as the criteria for inclusion, and why even that isn't enough. I agree with the minority 'Keep' side, btw.

I suffer from that same tech ignorance! We are part of that minority that exhibits tremendous insight and clarity,
And therefore shouldn't be brushed aside by these tech snobs.

Isn't it curious how the extreme climate changes of our planet,
ie. The ice ages, have been purposely minimized and left out of the mainstream dialogue?

I'm firmly rooted in the idea that earth's ice ages DO NOT fit their theories, computer models and overall narratives.
It's the BIG FAT scientific elephant in the room which no one wants to address.
What say you?

[smackaholic]

There are a number of things the chicken little brigade wants to ignore.

First and foremost, more CO2 makes everything grow better. It also allows them to be more efficent with water. This is ACTUAL settled science.

The world is greener than it was 50 years ago, by a good bit actually, thanks to man-made CO2 fertilization.

More people are killed by cold than heat. Always have, always will.

Dig up your algore predictions from 20 years ago. How'd they work out?

Temps increases have more or less stalled over the last 20 years. The doomsayers will point to "hottest month in history" data, because this period was .003 degrees warmer than ever before. They will ignore that their predictions were that it would be 2.003 degrees warmer.

[EAP]

There are a number of things the chicken little brigade wants to ignore.

First and foremost, more CO2 makes everything grow better. It also allows them to be more efficent with water. This is ACTUAL settled science.

The world is greener than it was 50 years ago, by a good bit actually, thanks to man-made CO2 fertilization.

More people are killed by cold than heat. Always have, always will.

Dig up your algore predictions from 20 years ago. How'd they work out?

Temps increases have more or less stalled over the last 20 years. The doomsayers will point to "hottest month in history" data, because this period was .003 degrees warmer than ever before. They will ignore that their predictions were that it would be 2.003 degrees warmer.

Keep posting sheer genius like that, and you'll be the chairman of this board quicker than kierland can drop his pants in San Francisco to LEGALLY defecate in front of women children and dogs.

[FiatLux]

There are a number of things the chicken little brigade wants to ignore.

First and foremost, more CO2 makes everything grow better. It also allows them to be more efficent with water. This is ACTUAL settled science.

The world is greener than it was 50 years ago, by a good bit actually, thanks to man-made CO2 fertilization.

More people are killed by cold than heat. Always have, always will.

Dig up your algore predictions from 20 years ago. How'd they work out?

Temps increases have more or less stalled over the last 20 years. The doomsayers will point to "hottest month in history" data, because this period was .003 degrees warmer than ever before. They will ignore that their predictions were that it would be 2.003 degrees warmer.

Keep posting sheer genius like that, and you'll be the chairman of this board quicker than kierland can drop his pants in San Francisco to LEGALLY defecate in front of women children and dogs.

He already does that. He’s just too small for anybody to notice...

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

PLEASE explain this graph to me:

Who said climate doesn't naturally change over a 600 million year period? Do you know what the concern, at the most base level, actually is?

Then you certainly see where there have been FAR more radical changes in our climate than what we're seeing now - just in 600 million years. You'll also note that CO2 and temperature levels are FAR below the average for that time period as well. Right?

So the answer to my question is...no. Got it.

BTW I'm pretty sure we went over all this in detail in one of the prior threads on this subject. Rehashing the same points over and over won't change anyone's mind. Then again, if we stopped doing that, then I guess this board would cease to exist.

[EAP]

Then you certainly see where there have been FAR more radical changes in our climate than what we're seeing now - just in 600 million years. You'll also note that CO2 and temperature levels are FAR below the average for that time period as well. Right?

So the answer to my question is...no. Got it.

BTW I'm pretty sure we went over all this in detail in one of the prior threads on this subject. Rehashing the same points over and over won't change anyone's mind. Then again, if we stopped doing that, then I guess this board would cease to exist.

I don't know if I've ever even talked with you about this. Why not go back to the beginning?


Don't you see how our temperatures and CO2 levels are WAAAAAAAAY below the average right now? Mgo - we're not important. Our silly little 80 years here just don't make a fuck - certainly not compared to 4 1/2 billion years.

Take a look back into the 70's and look what all of these esteemed scientists were saying back then:
http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/0 ... rmism.html

So were they all wrong then, and now they're all right? Don't be a sheep, dude. You're too smart for that.

Papa, It's way way way to late for that these leftists are sheep till the end.

They are so brainwashed by leftist propaganda in academia the press and yes, science, that nothing can bring them back to reality.

Leftism is a religion.
It's a disease.
It's a bonafide mental disorder.

They are part of the mob mentally, which is deeply rooted in instability and deep seated insecurities.
The mob is their security blanket.

[FiatLux]

Leftism is a religion.
It's a disease.
It's a bonafide mental disorder.

This is Porky's new idol.


Too funny!

[BSmack]

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The planet is not just between Ice Ages, it's between pole flips.

I think we can handle pole flips.

https://youtu.be/svSbBnuD-bg

[Dr_Phibes]

pole flips.

[Shlomart Ben Yisrael]

Obviously, some Reagan conservative boomer is giving environmentalists the bird...

"Global warming? See that white stuff? Does that spell global warming? Huuurrrrr..."

[MgoBlue-LightSpecial]

Spray, you understand guitar playing real well. I wouldn't attempt to debate you on the finer points of that. The same holds true here. You (and EAP) need to express that you have even a rudimentary understanding of the issue of climate change in order to seriously engage me. I'll give you a hint. It's about the rate of change. All you're doing so far is bringing up the non-scientific Rush Limbaugh-type talking points. I have zero interest in going there. If you want to get me going then you need to stop boring me.

[trev]

Do you know what the concern, at the most base level, actually is?

Wolftard had to put on a comfy sweater today, so everything is fine.

TAKE THAT, science!

Wolfy is off limits. He's earned that sweater and more.

[Innocent Bystander]

[
The planet is not just between Ice Ages, it's between pole flips.

I think we can handle pole flips.

https://youtu.be/svSbBnuD-bg

And that's why pole dancing should be added to women's and men's gymnastics. Except men already perform pole dancing tricks.

[Innocent Bystander]

Spray, you understand guitar playing real well. I wouldn't attempt to debate you on the finer points of that. The same holds true here. You (and EAP) need to express that you have even a rudimentary understanding of the issue of climate change in order to seriously engage me. I'll give you a hint. It's about the rate of change. All you're doing so far is bringing up the non-scientific Rush Limbaugh-type talking points. I have zero interest in going there. If you want to get me going then you need to stop boring me.

90% of us don't so just spit it out. You might find, you all are not really disagreeing with each other.

[EAP]

Spray, you understand guitar playing real well. I wouldn't attempt to debate you on the finer points of that. The same holds true here. You (and EAP) need to express that you have even a rudimentary understanding of the issue of climate change in order to seriously engage me. I'll give you a hint. It's about the rate of change. All you're doing so far is bringing up the non-scientific Rush Limbaugh-type talking points. I have zero interest in going there. If you want to get me going then you need to stop boring me.

The "rate" of climate change.

We actually do get that. The extreme climate change of our planet is speeding up

We are interested in the data you've got on the extreme points or extreme destinations if you will.
ie. The extreme climate destination of the actual ice age.
And the other extreme destination of maximum global warming.

Your data shows that the "rate" at which we get to these extreme points is speeding up

But where's the data on those extreme points(destinations)?

One would think that scientists would want to have a greater understanding about the most extreme points (destinations) of our planet's climate change.

Yet all we get are the rates.
It's changing at a more rapid pace.

Why do you suppose that is?
Is it because that's just where the science is at this point in time?
Like many other unexplained things that science hasn't yet revealed to us. But one day will.

[Kierland]

Good luck with that MGO.

[smackaholic]

MGO,

There was a brief acceleration of temps which ended our fears of the coming ice age, about 40 years ago.

These ice age fears were based on about 40 years of lowering temps.

This spurt in temps has kinda lost steam the last 15 years or so. The temps may still be rising slowly which means that this past july might be the warmest month on record. But the acceleration in rate of change has turned into a deceleration of rate of change.

What we do know is that for about 200 years, it has been warming. Sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly. And right smack in the middle of the 20th century, it actually cooled a bit, when there should have been warming, if our tossing CO2 into the air had a strong relation to temps.

So this warming had a jump on the industrial revolution by at least a few years. I don't have numbers in front of me, but I don't think our effect on atmospheric CO2 levels didn't really get started, until the second half of the 19th century and that we really didn't get serious about shitting CO2 into the air until a few decades into the 20th century, which ironically is about the time we started a 40 year cooling.

[Innocent Bystander]

In the context of earth’s history, scientists were telling us yesterday that the earth was flat.

Some were. The rest had access to the map upon which the Piri Reis map was based.

Go to Google Images, type in “CO2 levels”, and then tell me how many graphs you see that go back even a million years. Again - why would anybody base an argument off of 1/30,000,000th of available data?

/thread

[EAP]

MGO,

There was a brief acceleration of temps which ended our fears of the coming ice age, about 40 years ago.

These ice age fears were based on about 40 years of lowering temps.

This spurt in temps has kinda lost steam the last 15 years or so. The temps may still be rising slowly which means that this past july might be the warmest month on record. But the acceleration in rate of change has turned into a deceleration of rate of change.

What we do know is that for about 200 years, it has been warming. Sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly. And right smack in the middle of the 20th century, it actually cooled a bit, when there should have been warming, if our tossing CO2 into the air had a strong relation to temps.

So this warming had a jump on the industrial revolution by at least a few years. I don't have numbers in front of me, but I don't think our effect on atmospheric CO2 levels didn't really get started, until the second half of the 19th century and that we really didn't get serious about shitting CO2 into the air until a few decades into the 20th century, which ironically is about the time we started a 40 year cooling.

I normally and as a good rule of thumb, don't make fun of a fellow board member's posts, BUT, this is the exception.

ARE YOU CLINICALLY INSANE?

Did you really just talk about measurements from the past decade or so?
The past 150 years or so?
Motherfucker!!!!

On a 5 billion year old planet?
Motherfucker!!
Even a highly trained Gerbil will explain that any such measurements will be problematic.
Fuck.
You need to demand a full refund for whatever education you supposedly had

[EAP]

MGO,

There was a brief acceleration of temps which ended our fears of the coming ice age, about 40 years ago.

These ice age fears were based on about 40 years of lowering temps.

This spurt in temps has kinda lost steam the last 15 years or so. The temps may still be rising slowly which means that this past july might be the warmest month on record. But the acceleration in rate of change has turned into a deceleration of rate of change.

What we do know is that for about 200 years, it has been warming. Sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly. And right smack in the middle of the 20th century, it actually cooled a bit, when there should have been warming, if our tossing CO2 into the air had a strong relation to temps.

So this warming had a jump on the industrial revolution by at least a few years. I don't have numbers in front of me, but I don't think our effect on atmospheric CO2 levels didn't really get started, until the second half of the 19th century and that we really didn't get serious about shitting CO2 into the air until a few decades into the 20th century, which ironically is about the time we started a 40 year cooling.

I normally and as a good rule of thumb, don't make fun of a fellow board member's posts, BUT, this is the exception.

ARE YOU CLINICALLY INSANE?

Did you really just talk about measurements from the past decade or so?
The past 150 years or so?
Motherfucker!!!!

On a 5 billion year old planet?
Motherfucker!!
Even a highly trained Gerbil will explain that any such measurements will be problematic.
Fuck.
You need to demand a full refund for whatever education you supposedly had

[Kierland]

Trust the process.
Post a bunch of crap.
Noise and light.
Flood the zone.

Sin,
88ovens

[Innocent Bystander]

Trust the process.
Post a bunch of crap.
Noise and light.
Flood the zone.

Sin,
88ovens

Merka has fallen
The Don is symptom, not cause
As 'bove, so b'low.