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Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 10:21 pm

FiatLux wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:45 pm

Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 9:15 pm To occasionally do it for comedic effect is not the same as it being a lifestyle. Doing it in a play or for a skit isn’t a lifestyle choice, which indicates serious problems

Sam, do you know people that dress up in cowboy hats and cowboy boots?

What's the difference?

99% of those people aren't cowboys.

So it must be for comic effect right?

If not, it must be a lifestyle choice and a mental illness right?

The people I know who wear cowboy hats and boots are ranchers, cattlemen, horse people, and cowboys/cowgirls.

But yeah, if a non-cowboy plays dress up/Halloween regularly, they have problems. But they’re not affecting a gender change. Therein lies the bulk of the mental illness.

Personally, I really don't care about how guys dress. It's of no interest to me. The only guys that are interested in what other guys wear. Are gay guys. Is there something you'd like to share that may be liberating for you Sam?

Now when it comes to women. Less is better.

yeah I called my shot and it is interesting, in a TMI sort of way.


So Sam, Roux is making a case using a certain manner of appeal. Not dirty pool, his rhetorical move here is pretty slick. its not say he's using a fallacy; and anyway where possible argumentation in earnest shouldn't be a game of gotcha with fallacy spotting.
What is up to you is: are you making the distinction between drag queens and the trans / nonbinary etc phenomena? Doing so makes the difference if you are going to claim there is mental illness in the mix.

it's decades since I took abnormal psych for sure, but what hasn't changed is the primary definition of the field. Just google "abnormal psychology" and you get:

" Abnormal Psychology
Abnormal psychology is a branch of psychology that studies mental disorders, their causes, symptoms, and treatments. It focuses on understanding and addressing behaviors, thoughts, and emotions that deviate from societal norms and cause significant distress or impairment in a person's life."

Well? would you say that the behavior is detrimental to anyone?


I don't know what is in the latest Diagnostic Statistical Manual regarding any of these phenomena under discussion, though I remember learning that homosexuality per se was listed early on and taken out later. google "homosexuality dsm" and you'll see:


"Initial Classification:
In the early editions of the DSM (DSM-I in 1952 and DSM-II in 1968), homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder, specifically as a "sociopathic personality disturbance".
The 1973 Decision:
In 1973, the APA board of trustees voted to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM, a decision that was influenced by gay rights activism and a growing understanding of sexual orientation as a normal variation.
"Sexual Orientation Disturbance":
While homosexuality was removed as a diagnosis, the DSM-II (1974) introduced the category of "sexual orientation disturbance" to address the distress some individuals experienced due to their sexual orientation.
"Ego-dystonic Homosexuality":
In the DSM-III (1980), "sexual orientation disturbance" was replaced with "ego-dystonic homosexuality," which referred to individuals who experienced distress or conflict with their homosexual orientation.
Final Removal:
The revised DSM-III-R (1987) removed "ego-dystonic homosexuality," and the current DSM-5 (2013) does not include any specific diagnosis related to sexual orientation.
Significance:
This change in classification had a profound impact, helping to reduce the stigma associated with homosexuality and paving the way for greater acceptance and civil rights for LGBTQ+ individuals. "

bungle clone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:31 pm and a growing understanding of sexual orientation as a normal variation.

Amazing how science works, isn't it?

You don't simply accept the current understanding, not when there is new evidence to the contrary.

So yeah, there's now ample evidence that sexual orientation varies among humans, as well as throughout the animal kingdom.

Roux wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:44 pm

bungle clone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:31 pm and a growing understanding of sexual orientation as a normal variation.

So yeah, there's now ample evidence that sexual orientation varies among humans, as well as throughout the animal kingdom.

Which is perfectly fine. As long as we’re talking adults and consent, I don’t give a fuck what people do.

But layering on makeup. Wearing womens’ clothes. Affecting feminine speech and mannerisms. That’s fucked up shit. Mental illness? Yes, to at least some degree.

Roux wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:44 pm

bungle clone wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:31 pm and a growing understanding of sexual orientation as a normal variation.

Amazing how science works, isn't it?

You don't simply accept the current understanding, not when there is new evidence to the contrary.

So yeah, there's now ample evidence that sexual orientation varies among humans, as well as throughout the animal kingdom.

yeah, like, wtf happened to phlogiston, or ptolemy's epicycles or is string theory falsifiable...yet? or no? are eggs good for you, or not? what about wine?

those examples are from the hard sciences

but behavioral science is the youngest of them all (it was born from philosophy and established as a science in the late 1800s
see: Wundt, Leipzig) and has foundational issues that remain.

Not a drag queen.

GOP leaders call on Sen. Eichorn to resign after arrest for allegedly soliciting a minor

Minnesota state Sen. Justin Eichorn was arrested Monday in Bloomington for allegedly soliciting a minor for prostitution.

Bloomington police said Eichorn was arrested near the 8300 block of Normandale Avenue at around 6 p.m. Eichorn, R-Grand Rapids, was booked into the Bloomington city jail and remains in custody.

In a statement, the Bloomington Police Department said a detective had communicated with Eichorn “who thought he was talking to a 16-year-old female” and then arranged a meetup on Monday. He was arrested without incident outside of his vehicle by uniformed officers, Bloomington police said. .....


Eichorn’s arrest on Monday came hours after he and four other Republican senators introduced legislation to designate “Trump Derangement Syndrome” as a mental illness.

Roux wrote: ↑Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:45 pm Not a drag queen.

GOP leaders call on Sen. Eichorn to resign after arrest for allegedly soliciting a minor

Minnesota state Sen. Justin Eichorn was arrested Monday in Bloomington for allegedly soliciting a minor for prostitution.

Bloomington police said Eichorn was arrested near the 8300 block of Normandale Avenue at around 6 p.m. Eichorn, R-Grand Rapids, was booked into the Bloomington city jail and remains in custody.

In a statement, the Bloomington Police Department said a detective had communicated with Eichorn “who thought he was talking to a 16-year-old female” and then arranged a meetup on Monday. He was arrested without incident outside of his vehicle by uniformed officers, Bloomington police said. .....


Eichorn’s arrest on Monday came hours after he and four other Republican senators introduced legislation to designate “Trump Derangement Syndrome” as a mental illness.

He might just as well be...

The Lloyd Christmas, pumpkin pie haircut alone should be enough to get him executed.

Roux wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 11:44 pm
So yeah, there's now ample evidence that sexual orientation varies among humans, as well as throughout the animal kingdom.

Sexual orientation doesn't change your actual sex, idiot. And don't attempt to conflate drag with actual trannies. Yes, drag has been part of theatrical entertainment for over 2,000 years. That's not what we're talking about here. This is what we're talking about:

mvscal wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:39 am This is what we're talking about:

Talk about whatever you want, I don't gaf.

As has been clearly shown, there are more pedophiles who have a (R) next to their name, as compared to whatever group you are attempting to marginalize. Likewise, more church officials who are pedophiles than them as well.

Roux wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:48 am As has been clearly shown, there are more pedophiles who have a (R) next to their name, as compared to whatever group you are attempting to marginalize. Likewise, more church officials who are pedophiles than them as well.

That’s a ludicrous statement, Chip.

Let's find out.

In this thread, and from this point forward, you post instances of trans abusing children, and I'll post the Rs and churchers. Let's count at the end of the year and see.

Right now the score is 0-0.

Roux wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:37 am Let's find out.

In this thread, and from this point forward, you post instances of trans abusing children, and I'll post the Rs and churchers. Let's count at the end of the year and see.

Right now the score is 0-0.

How many trans persons are in this country?

Dems abuse kids. Republicans abuse kids. Gays abuse kids. Priests abuse kids. I think priests will win this competition.

I’m not spending any of my time searching for these kinds of stories.

I don't go looking for them either. But yeah, I notice them when I see them.

Ok fine, I'll use this thread and post regardless of the offender. Every drag queen, trans, gay, whatever, as well as the Rs and religious. It would be great if there are no such stories at all this year, but we'll see.

Roux wrote: ↑Tue Mar 18, 2025 8:45 pm Not a drag queen.

GOP leaders call on Sen. Eichorn to resign after arrest for allegedly soliciting a minor

Minnesota state Sen. Justin Eichorn was arrested Monday in Bloomington for allegedly soliciting a minor for prostitution.

Bloomington police said Eichorn was arrested near the 8300 block of Normandale Avenue at around 6 p.m. Eichorn, R-Grand Rapids, was booked into the Bloomington city jail and remains in custody.

In a statement, the Bloomington Police Department said a detective had communicated with Eichorn “who thought he was talking to a 16-year-old female” and then arranged a meetup on Monday. He was arrested without incident outside of his vehicle by uniformed officers, Bloomington police said. .....


Eichorn’s arrest on Monday came hours after he and four other Republican senators introduced legislation to designate “Trump Derangement Syndrome” as a mental illness.

Chip taking the glass dick once again.

http://theoneboard.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=54392

Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:42 am I think priests will win this competition.

This guy isn't a priest, but close enough.

Religion: 1
Drag queens: 0

Youth pastor arrested by Thornton police, facing charge of sexual assault on a child

DENVER (KDVR) — A pastor employed by Word Alive Church was arrested Tuesday after reported incidents of sexual assault on juveniles while he was a youth pastor there.

Joshua Lucero, 28, was charged with one count of sexual assault on a child by one in a position of trust – a pattern of trust by the 17th Judicial District Attorney’s Office.

The Thornton Police Department said that the reported incidents happened when Lucero was a youth pastor overseeing juveniles between the ages of 13 and 18 between July 2017 and July 2020. Detectives believe there are more victims and are encouraging anyone with information to come forward.

Wonder if Senor Pubestache is supposed to be here.

Religion: 2
Drag queens: 0

Franklin Man Sentenced to 42 Years for Sex Crimes Against Minor

Prosecutors and victims say crime is part of decades-long pattern of abuse


A Franklin man was sentenced to 42 years in prison for sex crimes against a minor, in what prosecutors and victims say is a decades-long pattern of abuse.

Samuel “Sammy” Linneaus Sylvester was sentenced on March 19 for seven counts of statutory rape and two counts of sexual battery by an authority figure. His sentence includes eligibility for parole in 12 years. He will also be added to the state’s sex offender registry.

Sylvester, known in Christian music and local church communities as both a music producer and youth pastor, was found guilty of the crimes on May 1, 2024 by a Williamson County jury. The charges stem from his grooming and sexual assault of a then 17-year-old girl who believed at the time believed she was having an affair with a married man.

https://www.mrctv.org/blog/marya-dunnin ... ainst-kids

On Thursday, a drag queen and registered sex offender with a long history of sexual offenses with minors was arrested in Brown County, Wisconsin. He is currently facing eight charges involving sexual conduct with minors, including two charges of having sex with a minor.

Religion: 2
Drag queens: 1

I agree 100% that church folks will win this competition. They do outnumber the freaks quite a bit. Any job that allows access to kids will be full of the sick fucks.


https://torontosun.com/news/national/st ... sex-crimes

A shocking new Correctional Service of Canada study has revealed that 44% of male-to-female transgender inmates are behind bars for sexual offences.

Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 12:03 pm I agree 100% that church folks will win this competition.

My guess is that religion beats the drag queens.

And republicans will probably make a strong showing as well.

Roux wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 2:17 pm

Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Thu Mar 27, 2025 12:03 pm I agree 100% that church folks will win this competition.

My guess is that religion beats the drag queens.

And republicans will probably make a strong showing as well.

I don’t think political affiliation is a determinant, but this is rather telling…and disgusting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... r-AA1qUYup

Roux wrote:

Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:57 pm

Roux wrote: ↑Thu Mar 13, 2025 3:49 pm Good, they belong in prison.

Still not a drag queen.

I take it you don’t think drag queens are mentally ill?

Well, I do not personally know any current ones, but my guess is that some of them are, but most of them are not.

I certainly do not think that all drag queens are mentally ill.

The same type of thing if you would ask if all drag queens have red hair, or are attorneys, or are left handed, or are transgender. Some are, but most are not.






























I could go on, but I trust that is sufficient to show that drag has been used often as entertainment.

The last photo is from a play What The Bulter Saw, and yes, yours truly played the character sitting in the chair in the Baton Rouge Little Theatre's production of it in the mid 1980s. What is happening at that moment is that the character switched costumes with a female character in order to let her escape the situation. In the play, soon after that photo, I turned towards the character on stage left, but sitting like a typical man with my legs open wide, thereby exposing my red boxer shorts to the audience. Always got a laugh from the audience, and in a few shows, some people got up and walked out.

I fukking’ loathe red-headed, left handed, tranny lawyers.

They should be lined up against a wall and shot….with the rest of the lawyers!!!




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Roux wrote:Surely there are photos somewhere, but I don't have any. I would have posted it if I had it. Still have funny memories of going shopping with the costume designer to try to find women's heels that would fit my size 14 foot. Never found some, so they added to the length of the heel strap to make it work. The experience gave me an appreciation of the effort it takes for women to walk in heels, and to do so gracefully.

Size 14 boats?

There’s an Irie joke in there somewhere!


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Sudden Sam wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 1:26 am

Roux wrote: ↑Wed Mar 19, 2025 12:48 am As has been clearly shown, there are more pedophiles who have a (R) next to their name, as compared to whatever group you are attempting to marginalize. Likewise, more church officials who are pedophiles than them as well.

That’s a ludicrous statement, Chip.

It's beyond ludicrous. Would that make it a plaid statement? You spaceballs/Tesla fans should get that.

Chip and his buddies have cited a handful of examples of Rs being pervs, so I guess that settles it. There couldn't possible be more Ds.

I hope you use a little better evidence in the courtroom, counselor.

As for my thoughts on this topic.

If prancing around in heels and an evening gown floats your boat, along with the boats of your fellow deviants, who am I to judge? It is a free country and I hope you boys have a good time. Actually, thats a lie, I couldn't care less if you do.

But so long as you are doing it around consenting ADULTS, knock yourselves out.

But when you want to bring that shit to story hour at the local public library, well, you can fukk all the way off.

I don't even care if the parents of the kids are OK with it. Stay the fukk away from kids.

As for the comparison of drag queens and cops/priests/plumbers/rabbis/etc...., that is ridiculous.

Are there priests that are deviants? Sure. But there plenty that aren't. Being a fukking deviant is not part of the job description.

But with drag queens, they are by definition, deviants.

I'm not saying they haven't the right to be deviant. I already said, I don't give a fukk. Just keep that shit on the down low and well away from impressionable little kids. They got enough trouble.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 1:39 am
But with drag queens, they are by definition, deviants.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 1:39 am But with drag queens, they are by definition, deviants.

Well yes.

And in the same manner, so are left handed people, people with grey eyes, red heads, and people with AB negative blood.

...and so it is, the grand lawyer-mage of our message boards, Jsc810, fully above it all, high on his own supply, knew by his own standards of certainty that all around him are in fact below him, that all and sundry are just sooooooooofa king stuuuuuupid...





yeah though counter-intuitive best practices on even a depleted smack board demand that one not buy into the basis of one's own smack completely.

By way of example, Bootie Lover got slammed by EuroClone, lost to Canibus Skilla after a solid effort, but then, hilariously, someone by a nic I forget decided to pick with an apparently vulnerable Bootie and got fukking crushed.

It doesn't matter how many times you think you've slipped things past others, sneered at the screen because of the perceived results and then congratulated yourself, earning a wrecking is never far off for any smacker, especially for those who fukking underestimate as SOP.

Roux wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 5:15 pm

smackaholic wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 1:39 am But with drag queens, they are by definition, deviants.

Well yes.

And in the same manner, so are left handed people, people with grey eyes, red heads, and people with AB negative blood.

Well no.

Being a drag queen is an affectation. It takes conscious effort and serious mental problems to transform oneself into a garish cartoon version of a female.

Your other mentions occur naturally.

Actually Sam makes a valid point, and I stand corrected. Being a drag queen is an action, something that a person does, and not a characteristic that you are born with. An action that only a small fraction does.

Similarly, only a small fraction are librarians, folk singers, lacrosse players, and coin collectors.

Roux wrote: ↑Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:30 am Actually Sam makes a valid point, and I stand corrected. Being a drag queen is an action, something that a person does, and not a characteristic that you are born with. An action that only a small fraction does.

Similarly, only a small fraction are librarians, folk singers, lacrosse players, and coin collectors.

That may be true, but that mean that transgender people aren't due equal rights & privileges per the 14th Amendment?

Diego in Seattle wrote: ↑Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:41 am

Roux wrote: ↑Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:30 am Actually Sam makes a valid point, and I stand corrected. Being a drag queen is an action, something that a person does, and not a characteristic that you are born with. An action that only a small fraction does.

Similarly, only a small fraction are librarians, folk singers, lacrosse players, and coin collectors.

That may be true, but that mean that transgender people aren't due equal rights & privileges per the 14th Amendment?

Did anyone suggest that?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... arges.html

LGBT Democratic Party treasurer Mathew Inman, 39, is arrested on child porn charges

Hmmmm. Yes, that is what we're keeping track of, but it did happen before this contest started, or whatever this is.

But it still is from 2025, and I don't want to get caught up in technicalities, so let's count it.

Religion: 2
Drag queens: 1
Democrats: 1*
Republicans: 0

*also LGBT

Diego in Seattle wrote:

Roux wrote: ↑Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:30 am Actually Sam makes a valid point, and I stand corrected. Being a drag queen is an action, something that a person does, and not a characteristic that you are born with. An action that only a small fraction does.

Similarly, only a small fraction are librarians, folk singers, lacrosse players, and coin collectors.

That may be true, but that mean that transgender people aren't due equal rights & privileges per the 14th Amendment?

What 14th amendment privileges are being threatened?


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bungle clone wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:00 pm pick with an apparently vulnerable bootie

I saw that one on Pornhub too.

smackaholic wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:42 pm What 14th amendment privileges are being threatened?

Hmmmm. Probably birthright citizenship, privileges and immunities, due process, and equal protection, but there could be more.

Python wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 4:11 pm

bungle clone wrote: ↑Fri Mar 28, 2025 6:00 pm pick with an apparently vulnerable bootie

I saw that one on Pornhub too.

:spittake:

Rackit.

Roux wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 4:25 pm

smackaholic wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:42 pm What 14th amendment privileges are being threatened?

Hmmmm. Probably birthright citizenship, privileges and immunities, due process, and equal protection, but there could be more.

We're talking about trannies not illegal aliens. Demotards haven't been this worked up since 1865.

mvscal wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 5:39 pm

Roux wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 4:25 pm

smackaholic wrote: ↑Sun Mar 30, 2025 3:42 pm What 14th amendment privileges are being threatened?

Hmmmm. Probably birthright citizenship, privileges and immunities, due process, and equal protection, but there could be more.

We're talking about trannies not illegal aliens. Demotards haven't been this worked up since 1865.

The Republicans haven't had a good POTUS since then.