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California braces for 'once-in-10-year' storm

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Good thing there's no El Nino this year otherwise we might get a lot of rain.

I wonder if Dinsdale has gotten washed out to sea yet.
California braces for 'once-in-10-year' storm amid fears of flooding, avalanches, blizzards

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(of course the drought isn't over...)
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Mikey wrote:
I wonder if Dinsdale has gotten washed out to sea yet.

Very little precip here lately. Been sunny and cold-as-fuck for the last few days. Supposed to snow a little Saturday, maybe (snow accumulation twice in one winter -- fuck off, Mother Nature).

Cascades are piled high right now. Rocking about 12 feet at the ski resorts -- we should be able to drink water and stuff this summer.
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Dinsdale wrote:
Mikey wrote:
I wonder if Dinsdale has gotten washed out to sea yet.

Very little precip here lately. Been sunny and cold-as-fuck for the last few days. Supposed to snow a little Saturday, maybe (snow accumulation twice in one winter -- fuck off, Mother Nature).

Cascades are piled high right now. Rocking about 12 feet at the ski resorts -- we should be able to drink water and stuff this summer.
I guess the pineapple express headed south, but not that far south. We're getting some rain today but no disastrous flooding or people drowning in the storm gutters.
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How are the Sierras doing this year?
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Mikey wrote:(of course the drought isn't over...)
I've been wondering about that, seems Cali has had a few trillion gallons of precip of late but it's still in an historic drought?

Sorta' like the global warning and now climate change hoax... that's your story and you're sticking to it.
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When a lake the size of Mead is 150 feet down from full, it is gonna take more than a few weeks of rain to fill it.
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Not all precipitation end up in reservoirs or aquifers. While California feeds the rest of the country (which is nice of them),their agricultural model isn't sustainable. The amount of precip and the amount used for irrigation doesn't pencil out.
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smackaholic wrote:When a lake the size of Mead is 150 feet down from full, it is gonna take more than a few weeks of rain to fill it.

Wait what?

I soooooo fucking missed the story that covered moving Lake Mead to California. Freaking media really let me down there.
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smackaholic wrote:How are the Sierras doing this year?
At least as far as Yosemite goes....

They're looking at a repeat of the "100 year flood" this weekend that they had back in '97:

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schmick wrote:
War Wagon wrote:
Mikey wrote:(of course the drought isn't over...)
I've been wondering about that, seems Cali has had a few trillion gallons of precip of late but it's still in an historic drought?

Sorta' like the global warning and now climate change hoax... that's your story and you're sticking to it.

75% of rainfall that California gets washes straight out to sea. The dims block any sort of plan to catch the water and fill the reservoirs because that would stop them from being able to gouge the citizens water bills and tell people to not water their lawns while crying about global warming and rising sea levels.
You're right. Let's "catch the water" and fill the reservoirs. That's how you fill them, right? Set out a few barrels around the neighborhood and truck them over to the lake when they fill up?

Or maybe we could just drop a few new reservoirs here and there, wherever it's convenient. It's seriously easy to dig a few big holes and/or throw up some dams and flood previously dry areas. We could do it by the end of the rainy season.

So many easy solutions but not enough smart Schmicks around to do it.
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Dinsdale wrote:
smackaholic wrote:When a lake the size of Mead is 150 feet down from full, it is gonna take more than a few weeks of rain to fill it.

Wait what?

I soooooo fucking missed the story that covered moving Lake Mead to California. Freaking media really let me down there.
I believe the eastern slope of the sierras are part of it's watershed, isn't it?
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schmick wrote:
75% of rainfall that California gets washes straight out to sea. The dims block any sort of plan to catch the water and fill the reservoirs because that would stop them from being able to gouge the citizens water bills and tell people to not water their lawns while crying about global warming and rising sea levels.
Ding, ding ding! There was never a drought. The faux drought is over.
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Now that I think about it some, i think it does drain into the colorado,but probably below hoover dam.
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trev wrote:
schmick wrote:
75% of rainfall that California gets washes straight out to sea. The dims block any sort of plan to catch the water and fill the reservoirs because that would stop them from being able to gouge the citizens water bills and tell people to not water their lawns while crying about global warming and rising sea levels.
Ding, ding ding! There was never a drought. The faux drought is over.
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smackaholic wrote:Now that I think about it some, i think it does drain into the colorado,but probably below hoover dam.
What the hell are you talking about?

Notice how Lake Mead is ON (part of) the Colorado river? The Sierra Nevada is basically just to the right of where it says "California", and nowhere near Lake Mead or the Colorado River.

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The Eastern Sierra drains mostly into the Owens River, and from there the water is mainly stolen by Los Angeles. Go rent "Chinatown." You'll love it.

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smackaholic wrote:Now that I think about it some, i think it does drain into the colorado,but probably below hoover dam.

Pretty sure the east Sierra slopes in Northern Nevada (pretty freaking huge state) drain to the Truckee (which drains into the Great Basin), the southern parts hit to Colorado.

And the eastern slopes that drain to the Colorado average somewhere right around 0.00" of precipitation a year, give or take a couple of inches... ergo (Latin) the term "desert."
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Dinsdale wrote:
smackaholic wrote:Now that I think about it some, i think it does drain into the colorado,but probably below hoover dam.

Pretty sure the east Sierra slopes in Northern Nevada (pretty freaking huge state) drain to the Truckee (which drains into the Great Basin), the southern parts hit to Colorado.

And the eastern slopes that drain to the Colorado average somewhere right around 0.00" of precipitation a year, give or take a couple of inches... ergo (Latin) the term "desert."
Wrong (see above).
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See those mountains, east of Bishop, Line Pine and Big Pine? Those are called the White Mountains. They actually have peaks up to over 11,000 feet but nobody knows about them because they're bone dry and there's nothing there. No water falling anywhere south of Mono Lake gets anywhere near Nevada or the Colorado, except at pretty much the extreme southeastern part of the state, and that's in the middle of the desert. Not too much gets past Death Valley, either.


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Mikey wrote:
Wrong (see above).
You're wrong, since I'm half right.

Although I didn't realize the Basin extended that far southwest.
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The Colorado is the border between CA and AZ, and also a small part of the NV border.
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And the Great Basin covers about 1/5th of the Lower 48. Sucker is in 5 states.
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So, the western slopes more or bogart all the water then? The few gallons that get over the ridge are sopped up by those fukking socal sponges? Guess that makes sense.
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Mikey wrote:What the hell are you talking about?

Notice how Lake Mead is ON (part of) the Colorado river? The Sierra Nevada is basically just to the right of where it says "California", and nowhere near Lake Mead or the Colorado River.
As the crow flys, the eastern slopes actually arent that far from the lower Colorado, but, water doesn't fly like a crow, apparently.
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smackaholic wrote:So, the western slopes more or bogart all the water then? The few gallons that get over the ridge are sopped up by those fukking socal sponges? Guess that makes sense.
The east sides of all the western ranges are typically MUCH drier. Once the clouds push up over, they quit dumping, and start dropping back into the valley. Then they hit the next range... lather, rinse, repeat. Eastern Oregon is a good example of this -- as soon as they clear the Cascades and hit the Deschutes, it's pretty dry. Once the moisture reorganizes and hits the Blue Mountains, it dumps snow (snow, because there isn't much moisture coming in outside of winter). While there's many different climates in the West, this is a recurring theme in everywhere west of the Rockies, some places wetter than others.

But as Mikey points out, this time of year, it's wherever Mother Nature aims the Pacific Firehose (usually towards BC/SE Alaska, as often as not).
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Mikey pokes fun at how "easy" it is to build a new surface water storage facility, ie a lake.

The issue is there are conflicting liberal/dem ideologies at work. Groups like the Sierra Club will sue forever to prevent any new surface water storage. But dams provide one of the best almost zero emission sources of power we have. Yet refusing to consider new surface water storage and the hydro power that goes with many of them means more reliance on carbon based fuels. And as our population grows we need more food of which there needs to be water for farming. Desal might take a dent out of human consumption needs but it requires a ton of electricity, which means more carbon based fuel usage to produce.

We aren't that far away, maybe 15 years, from the green water plans fighting the green nature folks in court and elsewhere.
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"Once in ten year" storm? Is that like the Storm of the Century or something? Is this a product of AGW and if it is, isn't getting snowfall a bad thing since no good can come from man's interference with the climate? And how is it Cal can have a ten year storm every couple of years? Are they taking out advances on future storm's water, thereby shorting their grandchildren of necessary moisture?

Rather than try to give it some extra ta-da and glamor, why don't weathermen just say thus is a nice wet storm that'll bring some highly appreciated snow to a normally desert area. There's no need to gussy it up with fancy adjectives like "10 year storm!" or "Hurricane of the Millenium!"
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Rooster wrote:"Once in ten year" storm? Is that like the Storm of the Century or something?
It is absolutely no coincidence that the stupidest people on this board are the biggest orange snowflake supporters. Who else would be dumb enough to buy that barkers lies?
And LS, new lakes are no carbon neutral you stupid silly fuck.
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Moving Sale wrote:
Rooster wrote:"Once in ten year" storm? Is that like the Storm of the Century or something?
It is absolutely no coincidence that the stupidest people on this board are the biggest orange snowflake supporters. Who else would be dumb enough to buy that barkers lies?
And LS, new lakes are no carbon neutral you stupid silly fuck.
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Moving Sale wrote:
Rooster wrote:"Once in ten year" storm? Is that like the Storm of the Century or something?
It is absolutely no coincidence that the stupidest people on this board are the biggest orange snowflake supporters. Who else would be dumb enough to buy that barkers lies?
And LS, new lakes are no carbon neutral you stupid silly fuck.
Read more post less. I didn't say they were carbon neutral. I said the power many of them provide has almost no emmisssions. I also said that desal takes huge amounts of power which puts the desal folks at odds with the green power folks.
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