USC-ORE Ingame

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:58 pm

Don't even get me started on the play-calling. I alluded to it in a previous post but the more I think about it the more pissed off I get.
Who calls a play that runs parallel to the line of scrimmage when your offense needs a freaking yard?

Uh Greg...obviously Sark does......

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:30 pm

Didnt USC just have what a 6 year home winning streak? whats the longest home win streak at Autzen? sure it isnt 6 years.

True, they grow great FANS in Oregon, course that's all a kid growing up in Oregon can look forward to since their entire team normally comes from somewhere else. People in California arent as well groomed at being spectators as people up there, theyre busy being players

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:39 pm

SoCalTrjn wrote:I still maintain that had USC knocked Dixon out the of the game, they would have had a better chance to win

So you're saying if Oregon's stud QB wasn't in the game, that would've benefited USC?

Wow. Time to fire Petey. There's a fucking football genius waiting in the wings.

You're an incredible douche, Toejam. How the hell can you call yourself a "coach" when you have no working clue as to what competition is all about?

The Seer · Post by **The Seer** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:27 pm

GreginPG wrote: Don't even get me started on the play-calling. I alluded to it in a previous post but the more I think about it the more pissed off I get.
Who calls a play that runs parallel to the line of scrimmage when your offense needs a freaking yard?

GreginPG · Post by **GreginPG** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:54 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
GreginPG wrote:Dude...Oregon WON! Why bitch about a thing??

Because when opposing teams pull bullshit like that lack-of-class move, it provides all the more motivation for next year.

Why excuse shitty beahavior just because my team won?

I'd bitch if my team did it in your house, and I'll bitch when the shoe is on the other foot as well.

If a little thing like that is gonna get under your skin that fucking much, then I'm glad he did it. Motivation for next year?? Please.
The Ducks have far more important things to concern themselves with than a stupid little timeout with 9 seconds left in their biggest win of the year...and so do their "fans."

It's kinda funny that you can't just enjoy that huge victory for your team and move on...whatever.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:57 pm

USC fans dont rush the field after winning games theyre supposed to win.
Petes movewas less bush than having a play reviewed 3 times when it wasnt going to matter in the games outcome

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:59 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:
SoCalTrjn wrote:Didnt USC just have what a 6 year home winning streak? whats the longest home win streak at Autzen? sure it isnt 6 years.

True, they grow great FANS in Oregon, course that's all a kid growing up in Oregon can look forward to since their entire team normally comes from somewhere else. People in California arent as well groomed at being spectators as people up there, theyre busy being players
So says the guy living vicariously through his kids and teaching them to injure opposing players.

How'd that homegrown California talent work out for you yesterday?

their Californians played better than USCs Californians

Its ok, I dont expect a fan of another school in a state so void of talent that they have to import all their players from their rivals state so their in state retards dont get blown off the field every week to understand what type of pride one can take in cheering for their states own players.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:17 pm

Keith Rivers is from Riverside, CA, only lived in FL for a couple years.

Im sure you can find one or two players from Oregons team that are from Oregon as well, but like Oklahoma.... the overwhelming majority of their players come from the state just to their south

drop the baseball thing, Ill never feel guilty for coaching a Pony baseball team that won a title, I dont care if they ran the score up on everyone, even in the title game where there was no mercy rule

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 10:49 pm

If it was all about population than Oklahoma and Oregons student bodies would be dominated by out of state students as well, are you saying that most of the students at Oklahoma are from Texas? Seems that your arguement would hinge on that, but if the majority of Oklahomas students are from Oklahoma and the majority of players are from elsewhere, it means that Oklahomans just arent very good at football, so they need to import players to not get blown off the field.

So I teach the kids to slide spikes up, as long as they win, they have fun.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:07 pm

less than 10% of Oklahomas enrolling freshmen are from Oklahoma? only 1 of the 11 starters on offense are from Oklahoma. Add the 4 on defense and you have 22% of the starters from Oklahoma... Youre saying that Oklahomas student body is only 22% in state? Is this where you come up with another insult since the statistics dont support your arguement?

I have never screamed at my team or during any practice or game and I cant think of any injuries other teams had from my teams play. Its too bad your kids didnt play in the league, we could have sent them home crying and humiliated too.

quacker backer · Post by **quacker backer** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 11:39 pm

Meds:

From where I was sitting it appeared to me that it was a typically officiated Pac-10 game...
Other than that....bring on Arizona State

M Club · Post by **M Club** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:35 am

i love how arseholes rationalize the boot camps they run instead of baseball practice as preparing their players for the rigors of life. that's why they're unreasonably pissed off even after the last kid's gone home to play video games and toejam's left to talk shit about his weak, pathetic losers. no vicarious experiences here..

college students rush the field after a big win b/c they generally have four years to be that intimately involved with the football game. only wankers downgrade an accomplishment by belittling the excitement expressed by legitimate fans.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:52 am

oh gawd, another Schmick thinks players should only play for their state team thread--except private schools. he makes Longhorn Bob Wheeler look like a free-thinker on the subject. though, the state of the art Texans leaving Texas for Oklahoma hate is currently practiced at texags.com.

maybe we can have a 5 year plan and government controlled economy, too.

Lendale White should have never played for USC.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:24 am

Dinsdale wrote:
Jsc810 wrote:Ah now I get it, this TV feed is the Oregon home channel.
Nope. They're just really that bad.

Maybe it was the wacky feed here, but I could have sworn it was the opposite. Those hacks were seriously slobbering every time USC made a play. Hell, I had non-TV-announcer-hating company watching here (1080HD on the 42' screen, bitches) and even they picked up on it. Though, I will admit, it is pretty easy to imitate Greg Paparidiculas or whateverthefuck his name is. All you have to do is combine the vocal sounds of a housecat in heat, a typical local sports radio caller and the musings of a dumbfuck. To be fair, he's really not that bad, but we did have fun imitating him worshipping the Trojans, and laughing. We must have been about 8 beers in, at that point.

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 4:30 am

Dumbfuck wrote:less than 10% of Oklahomas enrolling freshmen are from Oklahoma? only 1 of the 11 starters on offense are from Oklahoma. Add the 4 on defense and you have 22% of the starters from Oklahoma... Youre saying that Oklahomas student body is only 22% in state?

What BtH said.

Oh, and btw, it works the other way, too, mensa. Folks here also follow lots of Oklahoma high school kids who ... hold on to your head for a second -- actually leave the state, to go play for another school. I know that concept is really, really deep, but if you try to put your mind around it, you might, someday, if you're lucky, grasp it. Maybe.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:00 pm

Jimmy Medalions wrote:First things first. Rack Oregon. And rack them again. The Porn Star coaches a great game.

Dude... what's been interesting the last few days, in dealing with USC Fans, on this board, and elsewhere, both internet and real life... is just how atypical you are in terms of USC Fan in general...

See, you actually have class. That seems to be a rare commodity among the USC Faithful. But, I'll save my opinions on USC Fan as a whole when I deal with larger numbers than a few here-and-there.

Stewart is a beast.

Really? A certain USC Fan I've been dealing with (who doesn't post here), is bragging to me how Stewart "got knocked out early," and was "getting dominated."

No, really -- USC Fan has described this to me in great detail.

I'm not sure if he was really watching a tape of last year's matchup, or what, but he was pretty serious about it.

RACK THE DUCKS.

And RACK the Trojans. Expected a dogfight, and got one. Even at their worst, USC is still looking to ruin your day... frequently. Not an ounce of quit in the bunch.

GreginPG · Post by **GreginPG** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:36 pm

Got knocked out early? How early was that, warmups?

Dude rushes for 100 yards and scores 2 TD. Gotcha.

The killer was that 3rd and 14 play when he got 15 and a first. Oregon (Stewart) scored on that drive.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:43 pm

Oh, and btw -- I didn't in any way intend to lump Greg in with my indictment of Trojanfans.

Probably the same as any other group of fans... most are cool, some are douches.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:54 pm

quacker backer wrote:Meds:

From where I was sitting it appeared to me that it was a typically officiated Pac-10 game...
Other than that....bring on Arizona State

I hear you...in other words a poorly-officiated game

No-call penalties are never an excuse for losing, it just frustrated the hell out of me. I didn't watch the USC oline as closely, but I'm sure there were plenty of no-calls on them as well.

Our kids are poorly coached by the assistants which is evidenced in a lack of key fundamentals, namely:

- Poor/non-existent blocking by the wide receiver position
- DB's not even turning to look for the ball
- Dumbfuck personal fouls

Nothing more to say. Carroll is a great coach but the guy needs to check his ego at the door and hire a strong offensive coordinator and hand over the keys. He's been trying to do it all by himself, with a staff that still wears diapers. He needs a guy like a Chow who is smart enough and experienced enough to run the show on offense, and Pete needs to let the guy do his job. If Pete sticks to defense we will be OK.

Coaches that need to go:

- Rocky Seto - might wanna teach DB's to turn for the ball.
- Nick Holt - a worthless gopher who doesn't get down on the players.
- Steve Sarkesian - too young for Pete to ever trust with control. probably a good future for him but not when he's handcuffed by a HC.
- Brennan Carroll - aka Spalding. the kid needs to move somewhere else because he doesn't add much...at all.

The most dominant SC teams during Pete's tenure had assholes on the coaching staff. Chow...prick. Orgeron...prick. Kennedy Pola...prick. Say what you want about those guys and where they are today...but what these five star kids need is a reality check and the coaches mentioned above delivered it on day one in practice. We don't have hardasses like this on the staff anymore...and our kids need them / would benefit by it. If Pete's gonna continue to play the good copy role, he needs more bad cops.

Also - would be nice if Pete hired a special teams coach. That has been a sore spot on the squad since he came in. Maybe Pete takes that role over once he turns over the offense lock-stock-and-barrel to someone else.

I think the slide in our program is about coaching, and more specifically Pete's ego. He hasn't seen much in the way of failure during his tenure, and I think he's running the program not to fail, instead of running it to win at the risk of failing.

I'm not one of the emotional Fire Pete Carroll guys that you're seeing at various meltdown sites across the internet, but I am pissed about his decisions as it relates to the staff. Good managers don't have a problem with guys smarter than them working for them. It should always be about winning - results are more important than the personal bullshit I think he's got stuck in his head.

I think he'll dump a good number of folks from the staff this offseason. If he does this, I think the kids and the program will be much better-served.

Fight on...and congrats to the Ducks. Go kick the shit out of ASU.

Terry in Crapchester · Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:54 pm

Believe the Heupel wrote:I guess you should go over to Keith Rivers' house and tell him to get lost. Patrick Turner, too. And Jeff Byers.

And Fred Davis, while we're at it.

The argument that teams should recruit only in-state, or even award scholarships according to the proportion of in-state/out-of-state student body is just about as ludicrous as it gets. And I root for one of the few schools for which recruiting would be business as usual if the NCAA ever adopted the second rule.

JayDuck · Post by **JayDuck** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:13 pm

Jimmy Medalions wrote:
I think the slide in our program is about coaching, and more specifically Pete's ego.

As you might remember I'm married into a USC family and living in SoCal. Obviously, firing of Carroll would be a mistake, but you are dead-right about this. He seriously needs to check his ego.

I was cautiously optimistic about the game until last thursday. Then on the news down here and the radio there was the story about some anonymous coach that said Carroll would have to be more progressive in defending Oregon this week. I figured he wouldn't really comment on it publicly, but Pete got pissed off that someone would dare tell him he needed to change anything. He said something along the lines of that they handled us since we went to the spread and they didn't need to change anything.

I thought to myself, if he really believes that this year's Oregon offense is going to be handled the same way we were the last two years then we've already got most of this game won.

In fairness, Bellotti's had a tendency to get egocentric himself over the years, too. Most noticible when we are struggling of course. Loved his line to BYU telling them they weren't even a middle of the road Pac-10 team, before they spanked us.

Pete running off Chow was the biggest mistake the program has made since Hackett.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:39 pm

This is Pete's program and he can leave whenever he wants. I would never support making him leave. I just think he's a bad manager.

If you take the way he's run the program over the past few years, and remove Reggie Bush, we are an above-average team. Winning can mask all kinds of problems and Bush carried this team on his back.

Hopefully this season is a shot in the arm and Pete brings in a seasoned guy to take over the entire offense. If he can focus solely on recruting and the defense, we will be great once again.

He owes it to the kids he's already brought in. They are raw but hold huge potential. We need more pricks in the program to take them from good to great. In the early years Chow and Orgeron did just that. Pete can't do it on his own. There are guys out there ready to do the job - Pete needs to bring them in.

Bellotti is a great coach. I think the down years a few years ago were due to the divorce he went through. As I understand it his wife was banging some other dude and the divorce was public and ugly.

When Hackett was busy sucking cock at SC there were rumors of the porn star coming to LA. I would have welcomed it.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:15 pm

Jimmy Medalions wrote:No-call penalties are never an excuse for losing, it just frustrated the hell out of me. I didn't watch the USC oline as closely, but I'm sure there were plenty of no-calls on them as well.

Oh, crap. Thanks for the reminder. Having watched so much PAC10 for so many years, I'd actually gotten brainwashed into thinking that there wasn't any rules against o-linemen holding in the PAC10. I thought they just called those at the end of the game to make sure the point spread came out right.

Really, this is something the PAC needs to adress. Unless a lineman impales a defensive player with a grappling hook and yanks him around, they very rarely call holding. The players adapt to the officiating, then by the 4th quarter, everyone on the line of scrimmage is holding every player that even gets in their general vicinity, and the offenses become so flagrant by the end of the game, the refs are compelled to call something, and it's almost invariably at some crucial point of the game, when they could have "sent the message" and set a precedent much earlier in the game. I'm not talking about saturday's game in particular, but a general PAC10 trend over the years, regardless which teams are playing.

Maybe I'm reading too deep into a few casual observations, but it seems like PAC10 refs just won't freaking call holding until the game is on the line, which blows huge ass.

And does anybody really know, including the PAC refs, what the outline is for calling offensive/defensive pass interference? I've been following the PAC for a loooooong time, and I really don't have any idea what constitutes pass interference... don't think the refs do, either.

Again -- the guys I was watching with all pretty much said "this has been a really well-officiated game... for the PAC10."

Not that the PAC has a monopoly on bad officiating, but it is pretty consistantly bad... or at minimum, it's consistantly inconsistant.

BTW -- Dirty Sanchez isn't the ultimate "reads defenses effortlessly" guy like Palmer and Leinart were... but he's a sophmore, right? If that's the case -- USC will be just fine at QB for the next couple of years. A little brushing up on his reads/checkdowns and whatnot, and he's a top-notch QB. He sure got suckered into throwing that last pick, though.

GreginPG · Post by **GreginPG** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:12 pm

Jimmy has some great thoughts regarding Pete and his staff and he's been able to put into words what I've been thinking.
Lax and I had a brief discussion last night about these very things, especially the assistants.

The thing that is so frustrating about Saturday's game is that it was as winnable for SC as it was for Oregon.
SC's defense did a pretty decent job of 'controlling' that offense as much as it can be controlled. Having said that,
when this team needs a big stop it can't seem to get one. ('Sup 4th and 20 v. Stanford and 3rd and 14 v. Oregon?)
Turning turnovers into points would help too. SC really needed to put up 7 after that opening kickoff fumble and didn't
even get 3. Nice play call on 4th and 1 btw.

Anyway, it is a shame that Pete/Sark didn't trust their offense, Sanchez (and the other kids) a bit more. Jimmy alluded to this also.
Pete all but admitted this too. 'According to Carroll, Sanchez's inexperience has influenced the play-calling of offensive coordinator
Steve Sarkisian...' And then this..."We've had to try to keep [Sanchez] under wraps so he can play confident -- that's what's at hand right now," Carroll said.
"It does affect your play calling and your decision making."

Oh and Dins I can't really fault Sanchez on that last pick. Here's a kid making his 3rd start and he was forced into trying to make something happen in the last
minute of the game. He tried to force it and it just wasn't there, not even close. Shit like that will happen.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:07 pm

The hold on McKnights TD run wasnt blatant, it was something that isnt even called 98% of the time and it was early in the game. And Rachals hit that was flagged for being late was before the whistle had blown and was no more late than Stewarts straight arm on Harris after Stewart had ran out of bounds and Harris had let up. there were bad calls and things that were looked past, the fact that there was only 1 flag on the home team though makes the officiating more suspect.

Jimmy Medalions · Post by **Jimmy Medalions** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:19 pm

Just shut the fuck up already. Nobody cares about one goddamned thing you have to say. Jersey ten inches from a guy's body is holding. Chilo knocked the dude to the ground a full two seconds after the play was over. You are an embarassment to USC fans everywhere.

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:40 pm

Hey Schmicky....if SC uses your logic then here are the guys that shouldn't be on the team....please tell me if they'd make a difference in W's and L's...
Patrick Turner
Taylor Mays
Joe McKnight
Vidal Hazleton
Ronald Johnson
JD Booty
Brian Cushing
Mitch Mustain
Damian Williams
Billy O'Mally
Broderick Green
Stanley Havili
Aubey Layno-Moses
Kaluka Maiava
Brad Smith
Mike Morgan
Jeff Byers
Keith Rivers
Dan Deckas
Christopher O'Dowd
Butch Lewis
Will Mullen
Fred Davis
Kyle Moore
Caleb Nelan
Trey Henderson
Everson Griffin

You know, it looks like some of those guys are players and will contribute on the field in the future if they haven't already.
Also, if U$S prides itself on being a university that attracts people from all over the world who contribute to the university in a positive manner along with financially after they graduate to attend they why in your feeble little mind would ever think that having schools take only kids that live in that state play sports for them or attend the university. Don't you think having students miss out on the experience of meeting people from all over the country let alone all over the world is a positive thing? Remember the four years you spent as a freshman living with different people and how you learned.....well how most people learned from their new friends? It's called education the whole person, learning from and living with people who can give you different experiences on life. I can't believe you are really that cognitively shallow. If $C didn't recruit nationally I'm sure you wouldn't have the success you've had. Do us a favor and please consult someone before posting your constant drivel which just solidifies your ineptitude at trying to make sense of anything.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:31 am

I lived in a condo in Redondo with my older brothers who were also going to USC and most of the people I associated with while there were also from the Newport/ South OC area that I grew up in and still live in today. I generally dont like people not from where I am from but I did enjoy the time I spent with the people from Huntington Beach, Sunset Beach, Redondo, san Pedro, Malibu.. .
I didnt say that schools should only recruit within their state, I have mentioned that the schools football teams should reflect the make up of the schools student body and that Oregon needed a team of Californians to compete with teams from California as they are not able to produce competitive talent in Oregon.
I feel that places that normally consider themselves to be"great fans" are normally great fans because those places are normally poor at producing great players... theyre also the type of fuckin morons that will refer to teams they do not play on as "we". if youre a student at the school and want to talk about how the school is now among the top 30 Universities in the nation then go ahead and say we, but if youre a student or a fan and you want to take credit in the accomplishments of the football team and youre not n the team flights... "we" does not apply

RadioFan · Post by **RadioFan** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:56 am

SoCalTrjn wrote:I lived in a condo in Redondo with my older brothers who were also going to USC and most of the people I associated with while there were also from the Newport/ South OC area that I grew up in and still live in today. I generally dont like people not from where I am from but I did enjoy the time I spent with the people from Huntington Beach, Sunset Beach, Redondo, san Pedro, Malibu.. .
I didnt say that schools should only recruit within their state, I have mentioned that the schools football teams should reflect the make up of the schools student body and that Oregon needed a team of Californians to compete with teams from California as they are not able to produce competitive talent in Oregon.
I feel that places that normally consider themselves to be"great fans" are normally great fans because those places are normally poor at producing great players... theyre also the type of fuckin morons that will refer to teams they do not play on as "we". if youre a student at the school and want to talk about how the school is now among the top 30 Universities in the nation then go ahead and say we, but if youre a student or a fan and you want to take credit in the accomplishments of the football team and youre not n the team flights... "we" does not apply

Oh, where even to begin with this shit ...

Board Bitch wrote:I generally dont like people not from where I am from but I did enjoy the time I spent with the people from Huntington Beach, Sunset Beach, Redondo, san Pedro, Malibu.

Sigworthy.

So let's get this straight: You obviously "dont like" those "foreigners" from San Diego or Long Beach. Not to mention Santa Monica or Torrance. The absolute HORRAH.

You know it's bad when a dude who lives in fucking Oklahoma and has only been out to SoCal a couple of times can call you out for being a complete and utter dumbass. Excellent job, Board Bitch.

Dude, quit now. Seriously.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:39 am

Santa Monica is cool, parts of San Diego or Long Beach as well, Torrance is alright, its better than any of the valleys.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:53 pm

Last time I checked, there wasn't a University in the country that put limits on the amount of students they will accept from out of state. So why should the football team be any different? They are exactly like the rest of the school. They don't deny anyone from coming to their team simply based on where they live. They select the people they want, just like regular admissions does, and welcoms them with open arms.

Laxplayer · Post by **Laxplayer** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:40 pm

I lived in a condo in Redondo with my older brothers who were also going to USC and most of the people I associated with while there were also from the Newport/ South OC area that I grew up in and still live in today. I generally dont like people not from where I am from but I did enjoy the time I spent with the people from Huntington Beach, Sunset Beach, Redondo, san Pedro, Malibu.. .

So your parents paid for a condo on the beach to allow you and your brothers to separate yourselves from the rest of the population and keep your snotty little noses stuck up in the air because you think you're better than those who come from different places. dude, get out a little more, you may learn something....then again.....

I didnt say that schools should only recruit within their state, I have mentioned that the schools football teams should reflect the make up of the schools student body and that Oregon needed a team of Californians to compete with teams from California as they are not able to produce competitive talent in Oregon.

Either way you're an idiot for saying this. Bottom line some states just don't have the talent. let's take a look at Oregon for a minute. Last I checked they don't have the population that we do in So. Cal, neither do many of the other states, which is why universities open their doors to ALL students and those who want to compete in athletics at said university. I'm sure Tim Floyd would love to go with your rule and let OJ Mayo leave because he didn't come from a So. Cal beach town. You know, why don't we just re border every state in the union so they have the same population to draw from, along with inner cities where a lot of that talent comes from.

I feel that places that normally consider themselves to be"great fans" are normally great fans because those places are normally poor at producing great players... theyre also the type of fuckin morons that will refer to teams they do not play on as "we". if youre a student at the school and want to talk about how the school is now among the top 30 Universities in the nation then go ahead and say we, but if youre a student or a fan and you want to take credit in the accomplishments of the football team and youre not n the team flights... "we" does not apply

Wait, you didn't play football at SC so when you refer to the team as "WE" what the fuck did you ever do for the team? Nothing. When the band plays at half time are you referring to we? Well maybe because you've had long cylindrical things up in your mouth, but other than that you 're not qualified to do or say anything that associates you with any competing team at any university. Who gives a fuck if you went there. Since I took an extension course through UCLA am I now part of their football team? Did I help their basketball team make the final four? Are you fucking serious? You've done nothing for the university except have your parents pay ungodly amounts of money for an average education. Why don't we just change the entire make up of the student body at U$C to all people who come from cities in So. Cal that have beach at the end because this nimrod doesn't like anyone else from any other parts of the state, country, world.

Hey, I know someone who knows someone who went to Oregon State so I hope we kick your ass this weekend. ssshhhheeeesssshhhhhh.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:59 pm

I generally dont like people not from where I am from

Normally I'd wish Darwin upon your front door step, but I'm not ready for this entertainment well to run dry just yet.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:17 pm

SoCalTrjn wrote:they are not able to produce competitive talent in Oregon.

Why don't we roll back the clock about a week and a half?

UDub had some injuries going into their game against Oregon.

By the time they got done putting redshirts in the laundry hamper, of their 22 offensive/defensive starters, eleven were from Oregon.

While Bellotti's in-state recruiting sucks huge ass, it's certainly not due to a lack of "competitive talent."

There's 10 times as many people in california than Oregon. While often misguided, Bellotti simply wants the absolute best team he can field... and he doesn't give a shit where they come from.

Kinda sucks for you that Dennis Dixon opted to head north, rather than south, eh?

And why is it that so many top-notch players decide to leave california to play U&L Ball? Don't try to tell me for one second that DD isn't better than Booty or Sanchez... so where w2as the problem recruiting him? Hell, he was a HS baseball start, and he still chose a school with no baseball team(until next spring) over USC...

Tired of KYOA yet?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:27 pm

And I thought I'd explained the "fans rushing the field" thing.

Ducksfans rush the field after EVERY game, win or lose. I was on the field after the Kal game. People go down there to BS, or spark a bowl. Getting out of Autzen after the game is kind of a nightmare, so people go down on the field and kill some time to alleviate congestion at the exits (which are kind of a messed up deal at Autzen). Chat with other fans, burn some weed, and congratulate/thank the oppsing players on their way off the field if a person gets down there early enough.

Not sure what's so hard to understand about that. Nobody is ripping down goalposts, no one is making plans for "I'm going to Disneyland"... they're just killing some time, because if you leave right at the end of the game, you're looking at a 20+ minute walk downstairs, due to a horrid "exit strategy."

Terry in Crapchester · Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:39 pm

SoCalTrjn wrote:I generally dont like people not from where I am from

As RF said, sigworthy.

I have mentioned that the schools football teams should reflect the make up of the schools student body

Then why do you suggest that ND should recruit only in Indiana? Only about 10% of ND's student body is from Indiana. The football team is pretty close to consistent with that.

I feel that places that normally consider themselves to be"great fans" are normally great fans because those places are normally poor at producing great players... theyre also the type of fuckin morons that will refer to teams they do not play on as "we". if youre a student at the school and want to talk about how the school is now among the top 30 Universities in the nation then go ahead and say we, but if youre a student or a fan and you want to take credit in the accomplishments of the football team and youre not n the team flights... "we" does not apply

I've stated my thoughts on this before. Imho, if you graduated from or are a student at the school represented by a team, you've earned the right to use the term "we" to refer to them, due to the fact that college sports teams have a much more intimate connection to the university or college they represent than professional sports teams do to the area they represent.

Killian wrote:Last time I checked, there wasn't a University in the country that put limits on the amount of students they will accept from out of state. So why should the football team be any different? They are exactly like the rest of the school. They don't deny anyone from coming to their team simply based on where they live. They select the people they want, just like regular admissions does, and welcoms them with open arms.

Maybe there isn't a set-in-granite number of in-state and out-of-state students at any university, but I've always been under the impression that state universities reserved the overwhelming majority of their admissions for residents of the state. When it comes to private schools, though, you're right.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:45 pm

I guess I must be behind the times, but I really couldn't care less if a longtime fan of any team from anywhere at any level uses the term "we" when referring to their team.

SoCalTrjn · Post by **SoCalTrjn** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:50 pm

dont give half a fuck about oj mayo, I think the school was stupid to build the Galen center, that money should have gone to bigger and better football facilities. Fuck ballerina ball

if they can pass a title ix rule that forces a school to have the same amount of female athletes as they have female students, they should do the same thing for in state to out of state students/athletes.

I have never refered to the USC teams as we, I didnt play any sports when I went there. was just something that from even when I was in HS it would piss me off to hear people ask "are we gonna win this weekend?" and I didnt see them out there at practice or on the field when I was out there.

Nothing wrong with living in a condo on the beach when I went to school, a lot of SC students lived there, a lot more moved there after the riots. I would have rather lived there than on campus. Pepperdine, UCI or USD are about the only campuses I would have wanted to live near but I went to USC

GreginPG · Post by **GreginPG** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:07 pm

SoCalTrjn wrote:dont give half a fuck about oj mayo, I think the school was stupid to build the Galen center, that money should have gone to bigger and better football facilities. Fuck ballerina ball

Wow. So it's just football and to hell with every other sport??
USC needed the Galen Center badly and more than one sport benefits from it.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 8:20 pm

SoCalTrjn wrote:if they can pass a title ix rule that forces a school to have the same amount of female athletes as they have female students, they should do the same thing for in state to out of state students/athletes.

So allowing kids to enroll from out of state to play on athletic teams is discriminatory?

Great call, mensa.