Iowa going after Southern Miss

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Wed Aug 03, 2011 6:43 pm

http://hawkcentral.com/2011/08/02/paten ... -to-iowas/

...apparently they feel the So. Miss eagle is too similar to their chicken.

Wait...didn't these fucksticks rip their motif from the Steelers? And they're concerned over little old Southern Miss? Douchebags. Can't say I once looked at the Southern Miss logo and thought "Iowa." What is similar about the two logos, beyond the fact they're both yellow and both bird-like?

Mace · Post by **Mace** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:53 am

Who do those Hawkeyes think they are? Wisconsin???

Moby Dick · Post by **Moby Dick** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:24 am

Correct me if i'm wrong fellow okies....didnt DA U...go after Tulsa Union a few years back?

MuchoBulls · Post by **MuchoBulls** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:44 am

Moby Dick wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong fellow okies....didnt DA U...go after Tulsa Union a few years back?

Miami went after Umatilla high school some years back

txangler74 · Post by **txangler74** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:12 am

University of Arizona when after Stephen F Austin high school for using there "A". Judge threw out the case.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:24 am

Moby Dick wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong fellow okies....didnt DA U...go after Tulsa Union a few years back?

i think that did happen. they still have the "U" on their headgear as far as i know.

Go Coogs' · Post by **Go Coogs'** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 11:44 am

Philadelphia Eagles went after the Atascocita High School because the Eagle logo was the same.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:47 pm

Mace wrote:Who do those Hawkeyes think they are? Wisconsin???

In your fucking dreams, sheep-shagger.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:34 pm

Again? They threatened to sue USM about 5 years ago. I guess nothing ever came of it.

I hadn't heard about this happening again. And I don't care. It's kind of lame. The Tigerhawk logo is actually very lame too. Turn it 90 degrees and it looks like Fred Flintstone.

These colleges are so protective of their logos. My high school was threatened by Kansas to change the Jayhawk logo because it was the exact same Jayhawk. We also had to go from being the Jayhawks to the J-Hawks. Lame.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 6:38 pm

TheJON wrote:These colleges are so protective of their logos.

noj, the "TM" is a very valuable thing. If you do not fight to protect it, you lose the sole right to earn from it. You a socialist or something? Everyone should be able to profit off other people's work?

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:17 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
TheJON wrote:These colleges are so protective of their logos.
noj, the "TM" is a very valuable thing. If you do not fight to protect it, you lose the sole right to earn from it. You a socialist or something? Everyone should be able to profit off other people's work?

1. We were a fucking high school in Des Moines fucking Iowa. Who gives a shit if we stole their logo? Another college, sure, I can see getting your panties in a bunch over that. How much money do you really think the University of Kansas lost because Urbandale High School in Urbandale, Iowa copied their logo? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say not one fucking penny. "oh noz, oh noz, a high school in Iowa is using our logo! oh noz! The horrah! The world is coming to an end! Everyone must die! OMFG! LMFAO!"

2. Wisconsin tried to sue another local high school (Waukee) because they claim they invented the letter "W". How fucking retarded is that? It's a god damn letter.

3. How can Iowa sue Southern Miss here? The logos ARE different. Oh sure, there are SOME similarities, but how can they claim it was stolen? Besides, Iowa's logo looks stupid. Turn that fucker 90 degrees and you will notice a striking resemblence to Fred Flintstone. Should the creators of The Flintstones sue Iowa too??

Better yet, let's everybody sue everybody for no good reason. I'm suing you for spelling my name backwards. And you can sue me for, I dunno, living in Iowa? Plain and simple, when a high school thieves a logo, it does absolutely NO harm to the college. It screws them out of not one penny. In fact, it probably brings them in more money because the retards that go to, say, Urbandale High School, are probably more willing to purchase Kansas Jayhawk gear because it's the same thing as their high school.

Fucking sensitive ignorant nutjob right wingers, I swear.....

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:23 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
TheJON wrote:These colleges are so protective of their logos.
noj, the "TM" is a very valuable thing. If you do not fight to protect it, you lose the sole right to earn from it. You a socialist or something? Everyone should be able to profit off other people's work?

I don't see what a major university has to seriously gain from picking on some podunk high school, but, if they want to go after someone for using their identical logo, that's their right. It's another matter entirely when the two logos in question aren't even all that similar.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:25 pm

noj=bitch,

Let me repeat. Once you lose your trademark/copyright, you lose the right to be the sole beneficiary of it. In other words, even though a high school may not make much at all on copying the logo of another school, the fact the school that has the trademark/copwright did not fight to maintian sole proprietorship of it releases them from the sole ownership of said logo/trademark/etc. Therefore, once that ownership is dissolved, anyone can sell t-shirts with that logo and make money off it without legal recourse. Now, I'm just an IT/Finance guy so some of my language may be a bit off here, but the premise still stands. I believe 88 can really bore you to death while informing you of copyright/patent law. I'm just giving you the Cliff's Notes version, tard.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:27 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:I don't see what a major university has to seriously gain from picking on some podunk high school, but, if they want to go after someone for using their identical logo, that's their right. It's another matter entirely when the two logos in question aren't even all that similar.

See my last response to noj. 88 will certainly be here at some point to back up and clarify (and correct) my statements.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:38 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:noj=bitch,

Let me repeat. Once you lose your trademark/copyright, you lose the right to be the sole beneficiary of it. In other words, even though a high school may not make much at all on copying the logo of another school, the fact the school that has the trademark/copwright did not fight to maintian sole proprietorship of it releases them from the sole ownership of said logo/trademark/etc. Therefore, once that ownership is dissolved, anyone can sell t-shirts with that logo and make money off it without legal recourse. Now, I'm just an IT/Finance guy so some of my language may be a bit off here, but the premise still stands. I believe 88 can really bore you to death while informing you of copyright/patent law. I'm just giving you the Cliff's Notes version, tard.

this sort of thing takes on a much greater (and therefore almost irrational legality) with the digitization of images. any clown can right click on an image, copy, paste, and voila!....i'm printing T-shirts. when it was Cletus in the garage trying to make an "OU" helmet logo stencil out of a shoe-box with an exacto-knife....there was demonstrably less to worry about.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:40 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:noj=bitch,

Let me repeat. Once you lose your trademark/copyright, you lose the right to be the sole beneficiary of it. In other words, even though a high school may not make much at all on copying the logo of another school, the fact the school that has the trademark/copwright did not fight to maintian sole proprietorship of it releases them from the sole ownership of said logo/trademark/etc. Therefore, once that ownership is dissolved, anyone can sell t-shirts with that logo and make money off it without legal recourse. Now, I'm just an IT/Finance guy so some of my language may be a bit off here, but the premise still stands. I believe 88 can really bore you to death while informing you of copyright/patent law. I'm just giving you the Cliff's Notes version, tard.

1. I don't need 88 to spew his copyright bullshit. Here's a snipped from my wife's attorney profile...

....

I hear all the same bullshit you're spewing about copyright infringement from her all the time. She doesn't necessarily handle this specific type of case, but she's been brainwashed enough by her peers to believe the same things you are saying. We've been having this argument about Iowa's logo for years. I don't give a damn if someone steals it, she gets all offended by the thought of anyone even attempting to recreate the thing.

2. Again, what's the big deal? I thought colleges were not-for-profit anyway? Who cares if someone is stealing your logo as long as it isn't another college? We were a god damn high school in Des Moines, Iowa. Did Urbandale High School make money off of the Jayhawk logo? Sure. Did it negatively affect the University of Kansas in any way, shape, or form? Not at all.

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:43 pm

If we were talking about for-profit businesses, I would completely agree with you. But not public universities. The only reason I wouldn't like another college stealing a logo is because it would be lame to have schools with the same logo. Not because of any financial gains/losses.

Iowa will never win their case against USM. I guarantee it.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:47 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:
MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:I don't see what a major university has to seriously gain from picking on some podunk high school, but, if they want to go after someone for using their identical logo, that's their right. It's another matter entirely when the two logos in question aren't even all that similar.
See my last response to noj. 88 will certainly be here at some point to back up and clarify (and correct) my statements.

That would be nice, because it doesn't make sense to me. How can you "fight" what you're not aware of? By that I mean, I know there are dozens of high schools in the state of Michigan alone that use the Spartan logo, or something very similar to it. Probably close to a hundred high schools nationwide. If they don't go after every single school mimicking them, that means they lost the right to their trademark? How can you keep tabs on what every high school is doing?

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:54 pm

http://www.mghelmets.com/iowa.html

Here are a list of Iowa High School helmets...

Here's the copied logos from colleges/NFL teams....

-Florida State
-Atlanta Falcons
-Louisville
-St. Louis Rams
-U of Miami
-Iowa
-Clemson
-Michigan State
-Michigan
-Northwestern
-Kansas State
-Southern Methodist
-Indianapolis Colts
-Minnesota Vikings
-Georgia

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:54 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:How can you keep tabs on what every high school is doing?

The interwebs. I believe SI.com had a story on this within the last year and that is the exact answer.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:24 pm

TheJON wrote:2. Wisconsin tried to sue another local high school (Waukee) because they claim they invented the letter "W".

The motion W, not just any letter W. And once again, Wisconsin wins, Iowa loses. And you're still a wet-brained fucktard.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:19 pm

MgoBlue-LightSpecial wrote:How can you "fight" what you're not aware of? By that I mean, I know there are dozens of high schools in the state of Michigan alone that use the Spartan logo, or something very similar to it.

I believe the laws state something in the nature of. once you are made aware of it, you must fight to protect it. There is not a compliance department so to speak that must "hunt out" copyright infringement like a university compliance department needs to "hunt out" cheating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genericized_trademark

They don't want to become one of these...

A few examples of trademarks that have lost their legal protection in the US are:

Aspirin, originally a trademark of Bayer AG
Butterscotch, originally a trademark of Parkinson's[citation needed]
Dumpster, originally a trademark of the Dempster Brothers, Inc., developers of the Dempster Dumpmaster front-loading garbage truck
Escalator, originally a trademark of Otis Elevator Company[4][5][6]
Heroin, originally a trademark of Bayer AG
Kerosene, originally a trademark of Abraham Gesner
Phillips-head screw, named after Henry F. Phillips[citation needed]
Pogo for the toy Pogo stick[6][7]
Thermos, originally a trademark of Thermos GmbH
Tipp-Ex, originally a trademark of German manufacturers Tipp-Ex GmbH & Co. KG[citation needed]
Yo-yo, originally a trademark of Duncan Yo-Yo Company

TheJON · Post by **TheJON** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:34 pm

Bla bla bla...

Don't forget the Crapper was originally named after Thomas Crapper. I bet his life was ruined once other SOB's started calling their toilets a "Crapper". He probably even committed suicide.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:44 pm

King Crimson wrote: this sort of thing takes on a much greater (and therefore almost irrational legality) with the digitization of images. any clown can right click on an image, copy, paste, and voila!....i'm printing T-shirts. when it was Cletus in the garage trying to make an "OU" helmet logo stencil out of a shoe-box with an exacto-knife....there was demonstrably less to worry about.

Doesn't help for printing of physical objects, but digital watermarking at least prevents it online...

which means little to this discussion, but I just wanted to RACK my neighbors down the street who invented the shit -- Digimarc.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 2:47 pm

TheJON wrote:Here's a snipped from my wife's attorney profile...

First, it's "snippet."

Second, you might wanna yank this post...

I mean, your OL is pretty cute and all, but you didn't really need to put links to her mug here.

Goober McTuber · Post by **Goober McTuber** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:07 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
TheJON wrote:Here's a snipped from my wife's attorney profile...
First, it's "snippet."

Second, you might wanna yank this post...

I mean, your OL is pretty cute and all, but you didn't really need to put links to her mug here.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:07 pm

I wasn't going to say anything, Dins.

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:11 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Second, you might wanna yank this post...

I mean, your OL is pretty cute and all, but you didn't really need to put links to her mug here.

I'd hit it.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:23 pm

Bwhaa. I'd hit it. How'd she get mixed up with a god-forsake loser like Noj=bitch?

MgoBlue-LightSpecial · Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:31 pm

No shit. How does a reasonably attractive attorney wind up with an insurance salesman/gambling degenerate? Rack JON.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:32 pm

IndyFrisco wrote:I wasn't going to say anything, Dins.

I should have kept quiet, and seen how long it took before she showed up as someone's avatar.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:37 pm

Rack noJ for gravy-training the OL and being a stay at home daddy

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:46 pm

Killian wrote:Rack noJ for gravy-training the OL and being a stay at home daddy

WAR alimony. He's set for life.

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 3:51 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
IndyFrisco wrote:I wasn't going to say anything, Dins.

I should have kept quiet, and seen how long it took before she showed up as someone's avatar.

You guys playing cards?

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:23 pm

Why do I suddenly feel like an asshole?

Albeit a funny asshole, but an asshole nonetheless.

indyfrisco · Post by **indyfrisco** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:48 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Why do I suddenly feel like an asshole?

Albeit a funny asshole, but an asshole nonetheless.

You feel like an asshole because you are one. You practically did what I did when Wags posted an article from his daughter's softball game. He even mentioned her by name so scooting over to the team's website and there's the roster with pictures. I just took it a step further than you did and posted the "look what you just did" picture.

I had already found jon's wifey's pic, but after the Wags incident, I felt kinda bad for pointing out his stupid so I decided to let it go here knowing full well someone else will post it. Thanks for stepping up.

je....err...jon, you can either get pissed and bail or just accept your error and roll with it. Saw your pic too. You married up. Nothing wrong with that. Join the club. Now, if you want me to clean this mess up, I'd be glad too.

Dinsdale · Post by **Dinsdale** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:54 pm

IndyFrisco wrote: You feel like an asshole because you are one.

Well, that clears things up.

Apologies to Jon, since that's really not how I roll.

I generally couldn't give two shits about anyone's personal info.

But that was one hell of a softball he tossed up.

King Crimson · Post by **King Crimson** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:05 pm

Dinsdale wrote:
King Crimson wrote: this sort of thing takes on a much greater (and therefore almost irrational legality) with the digitization of images. any clown can right click on an image, copy, paste, and voila!....i'm printing T-shirts. when it was Cletus in the garage trying to make an "OU" helmet logo stencil out of a shoe-box with an exacto-knife....there was demonstrably less to worry about.

Doesn't help for printing of physical objects, but digital watermarking at least prevents it online...

which means little to this discussion, but I just wanted to RACK my neighbors down the street who invented the shit -- Digimarc.

you'd be surprised, there's a middle eastern guy who runs a low budget Fed Ex/Kinko's type place near my crib....you take in your thumb drive with a jpeg on it and he'll print T-shirts all day for you.

Screw_Michigan · Post by **Screw_Michigan** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:10 pm

King Crimson wrote:you'd be surprised, there's a middle eastern guy who runs a low budget Fed Ex/Kinko's type place near my crib....you take in your thumb drive with a jpeg on it and he'll print T-shirts all day for you.

How big does the file size have to be? If I wanted to find one in DC, what should I search for? "Haji's low-budget screen printing?"

Killian · Post by **Killian** » Fri Aug 05, 2011 5:18 pm

Dinsdale wrote:Why do I suddenly feel like an asshole?

Albeit a funny asshole, but an asshole nonetheless.

If it was 1997, yeah, feel like an asshole. I was already C&P'ing that into google before you mentioned it.